# WandaVision on Disney +. Open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [January 21, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094 "2021-01-21T14:24:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1110 "2021-03-01T22:47:25Z")
As someone with strong deuteranomaly I strongly object to having to suss out what team these people are playing for without a program. They should wear name tags or something. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1111 "2021-03-01T23:04:50Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > This is why no skilled magician is ever caught without his Pantone color wheel. Second most important tool next to those rings that open magic portals. _“I’m certain of this – [she’s casting a PMS 2925 spell!](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/5d/e3/165de3ef34e902f1b22f199a9e8c2dd5.jpg) … no wait! PMS 2995 … aaaaaaaaaargh … !!!”_ ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1112 "2021-03-01T23:15:38Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > But in _Infinity War,_ it’s stated that Wanda can destroy the Mind Stone because her powers come from the same source. > > Did she will an Infinity Stone out of existence just because she thought she could? Vision _hypothesizes_ that it would take a power similar to the Mind Stone to destroy it. It’s possible she just that powerful. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1113 "2021-03-01T23:27:56Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Eh, there’s only so many colors vs. an infinite number of dimensions. Fair point, but clearly in WandaVision they are using color significantly. It could just be for clarity of story, i.e. lightsabers, but it’s not purely artistic. The fact that they are rumored to be using WandaVision as a lead-in to Dr. Strange II having there be a connection makes some sense. Personally, I like the idea that Wanda becomes the (dark) Scarlett Which by tapping into the Dark Dimension, using the same source of power as Kaecilius. This means we’re not introducing another new arbitrary MacGuffin and instead are reusing a known in-universe thing. It’s a pattern that the MCU uses. First it was the Tesseract and the Scepter which made repeated appearances and empowered or imperiled our heroes. Then it was Thanos and the Infinity Stones more directly. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1114 "2021-03-01T23:27:57Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > It’s possible she just that powerful. That’s what I’m saying. I think that was actually her first use of her powers to warp reality. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1115 "2021-03-01T23:31:07Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Fair point, but clearly in WandaVision they are using color significantly. It could just be for clarity of story, i.e. lightsabers, but it’s not purely artistic. The fact that they are rumored to be using WandaVision as a lead-in to Dr. Strange II having there be a connection makes some sense. They also might not have settled on the color coding thing when they made the first Dr. Strange. It also took them a while to settle on where the Infinity Gauntlet was, or who had Cap’s Shield while he was on ice. The continuity in the MCU is really, really good - but it’s not quite seamless. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1116 "2021-03-01T23:32:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > They also might not have settled on the color coding thing when they made the first Dr. Strange. It also took them a while to settle on where the Infinity Gauntlet was, or who had Cap’s Shield while he was on ice. The continuity in the MCU is really, really good - but it’s not quite seamless It’s also pretty clear they weren’t planning on using the Scepter as the Mind Stone originally. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1117 "2021-03-01T23:36:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The Mind Stone is yellow. Wanda’s powers are red. This suggests that the Mind Stone isn’t the source of Wanda’s powers, it just boosted powers she already had. When she hexed Vision into existence the magic that split off was yellow. In the flashback to the scene with the Scepter she sees all yellow from the mind stone. So she definitely had mind stone power in her, but maybe she is spinning off the mind stone power into the new Vision and she’s replacing them with the Chaos magic. In reality, it’s probably just a self-inflicted problem when the writers decided to make the Mind Stone yellow, make the Scepter blue, and have them imbue the Scarlett Witch with power while having it also power Vision. The plan wasn’t in place ahead of time and they adapted and are now left with color mush around these characters. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1118 "2021-03-01T23:41:54Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > They also might not have settled on the color coding thing when they made the first Dr. Strange. It also took them a while to settle on where the Infinity Gauntlet was, or who had Cap’s Shield while he was on ice. The continuity in the MCU is really, really good - but it’s not quite seamless. I’m reasonably sure this was the case for the Scepter/Mind Stone and the Aether/Reality Stone, they adapted ideas and retconned them into the eventual Infinity War story. But Dr. Strange is pretty recent. They had already stubbed their toe and by this point will have learned their lesson and had the plan for Infinity War, Scarlet Witch and likely the Multiverse of Madness all at least partially sketched out. By Dr. Strange they knew they had to start thinking ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1119 "2021-03-01T23:47:58Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > When she hexed Vision into existence the magic that split off was yellow. In the flashback to the scene with the Scepter she sees all yellow from the mind stone. So she definitely had mind stone power in her, but maybe she is spinning off the mind stone power into the new Vision and she’s replacing them with the Chaos magic. Good catch. I checked the scene from Infinity War where she unmakes the Mind Stone, and she’s using red energy there. If she somehow channeled Mind Stone energy to bring back Vision, that suggests that he’s a lot closer to being the “real” Vision. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1120 "2021-03-02T01:17:47Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > A very popular school of magic in the early '90s, as I recall. 😃 And then there’s Mauve… That uncompromisin’, enterprisin’, anything but tranquilizin’, Right on Mauve…! ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1121 "2021-03-02T01:34:38Z")
God’ll get you for that, **Mundane\_Super\_Hero**. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1122 "2021-03-02T03:10:46Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > And then there’s Mauve… > > That uncompromisin’, enterprisin’, anything but tranquilizin’, > > Right on Mauve…! That’s perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1123 "2021-03-02T10:20:22Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > “I’m certain of this – [she’s casting a PMS 2925 spell!](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/5d/e3/165de3ef34e902f1b22f199a9e8c2dd5.jpg) … no wait! PMS 2995 … aaaaaaaaaargh … !!!” I can’t help but read this in the context of _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_: “What…is your favorite color?” “PMS 2925…no, PMS 2995…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!” \< falls into chasm \> ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1124 "2021-03-02T16:31:08Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > So, here’s something. Assuming that the color coding of magic is significant: > > The Mind Stone is yellow. Wanda’s powers are red. This suggests that the Mind Stone isn’t the source of Wanda’s powers, it just boosted powers she already had. > > But in _Infinity War,_ it’s stated that Wanda can destroy the Mind Stone because her powers come from the same source. > > Did she will an Infinity Stone out of existence just because she thought she could? I have a problem with this as well but maybe there is an answer. It is clear from color and her power of the hex is the Aether Stone so the whole scepter (Mind Stone as blue?) doesn’t make sense to me as the source of her power. Or is her power the mind and not reality so the mind stone is blue, aamber and red? BUT Darcy said the broadcast came from the CBR and the Infinity Stones are from creation so there is a common link there somewhere in all of this. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1125 "2021-03-02T20:38:05Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I have a problem with this as well but maybe there is an answer. It is clear from color and her power of the hex is the Aether Stone so the whole scepter (Mind Stone as blue?) doesn’t make sense to me as the source of her power. Or is her power the mind and not reality so the mind stone is blue, aamber and red? Maybe the color of magic lines up with which of the 6 aspects of the universe are being used/altered, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the source of the power comes from that infinity stone. So red magic affects reality. Yellow magic controls the mind. Agatha does purple magic right, so she’s affecting the soul. I think Wanda innately has Reality Warping magic, but she was super charged by the mind stone to also affect minds. Or maybe we’re all just overthinking it and the directors are just going “yeah, purple would look good here.” ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1126 "2021-03-02T21:00:35Z")
If Blue is Natural Magic (Agatha’s Coven/Mother) and Red = Chaos Magic (Wanda) then Purple (Agatha) is the combination of the two - which is what she was accused of inthe beginning of the episode. The yellow bits from Wanda when Creating Vision2 would likely just be ‘energy’ or a reminder to the Mindstone - but the biggest portion of that magic was Red. The Eye (timestone) represented in Green - but the rest of the sorcers spells were orangish? (IMHO) ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1127 "2021-03-02T21:14:42Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Or maybe we’re all just overthinking it and the directors are just going “yeah, purple would look good here.” That seems by far the most likely to me. Also, that’s what I’m personally _hoping_ for. I personally found DC’s attempts to systematize the “emotional rainbow” and the ROYGBIV Lantern Corps just kind of goofy. I’m hoping the MCU doesn’t go down that particular yellow brick road. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1128 "2021-03-03T03:44:49Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Or maybe we’re all just overthinking it and the directors are just going “yeah, purple would look good here.” You can’t rule this out, it’s a strong contender, but the MCU is 20-odd movies in at this point spanning nearly 2 decades. And their magnum opus thus far centered on the Infinity Stones which are explicitly color coded sources of powers. For them to now say that magic color coding is just up to the whim of the art director seems like a big step backwards. This stuff has to be tightly managed by somebody. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/1129 "2021-03-03T14:31:00Z")
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