# WandaVision on Disney +. Open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [January 21, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094 "2021-01-21T14:24:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/141 "2021-01-30T15:47:15Z")
> [@simster](#): > > That would have to have had quite a few holy shit moments - when something comes back where something currently is. It was explained, somewhere or other, I’m thinking an interview with Feige or something that the intent of Banner and the power of all the Infinity Stones made sure that no one was brought back in a precarious position. Which is good, as one of my first thoughts when they came back was, what about all the people who were in airplanes? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/142 "2021-01-30T15:52:34Z")
One thing that I didn’t quite understand was why there was a protocol that grounded anyone who came back. I could kinda understand if just one or two people came back, that’d be a bit suspicious, but when everyone comes back, and I assume that at this point S.W.O.R.D. has been briefed as to why, what is the reason for mistrusting those who have returned? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/143 "2021-01-30T15:57:21Z")
I don’t necessarily think its mistrust - its that 5 years has passed and lots has changed - let alone orgs like SWORD trying to figure out ‘why’ they are suddenly back. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/144 "2021-01-30T15:57:45Z")
It’s not clear how much of the universe knows about what Thanos did…if you didn’t know, maybe you might be afraid of putting someone in an important situation where are you have to rely on them? But presumably SWORD knows about Thanos & that it’s not going to repeat, so I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/145 "2021-01-30T16:01:21Z")
Yeah, it would be especially odd for pretty much the entire rest of the universe. At least on Earth, they have the potential to understand what happened. I don’t know how much was shared with the general public, but at the very least, major governments and organizations would know what is going on. Some backwater planet on the other side of the universe though? Suddenly, half you population just up and vanishes for no reason. Five years later, they just as unexplainably pop back into existence. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/146 "2021-01-30T16:04:20Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I could kinda understand if just one or two people came back, that’d be a bit suspicious, but when everyone comes back, and I assume that at this point S.W.O.R.D. has been briefed as to why, what is the reason for mistrusting those who have returned? It isn’t mistrust of the people, but mistrust of the process. They put in a policy not knowing what had happened - but wanting to be prepared in advance. So they wouldn’t know if their minds, bodies, abilities degrade? Whether they’d come back as the same people? Would they be some sort of zombie? Might they be aliens impersonating the people who blipped using the confusion to do something nefarious? Will the process to bring them back not work 100% so they might not be fully back and prone to disappear again? SWORD would be clued into a lot of the details about what’s going on - and would also know enough about other possibilities to ask some questions. It makes total sense to me that you not put that behind the “wheel” of an airplane or spaceship until everyone has had time to figure many things out. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/147 "2021-01-30T17:11:36Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Might they be aliens impersonating the people who blipped using the confusion to do something nefarious? Yeah, don’t forget that the woman who put the protocol in place had first hand experience with the Skrulls. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/148 "2021-01-30T17:20:53Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > They put in a policy not knowing what had happened - but wanting to be prepared in advance. Yeah, totally. They also didn’t know the circumstances of a potential return. They didn’t know if the disappeared were truly gone, atomized, or had been whisked elsewhere. Could anyone hope for all the missing to come back together? Isn’t it more likely that only some, or just a few, would reappear? What if it’s only one? How do we know they’re who they say they are? Under those assumptions, the protocol absolutely makes sense. It’s only in the unthinkable scenario where absolutely everyone returns simultaneously that the rule looks a little crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/149 "2021-01-30T17:31:14Z")
I caught a bit of “If my daughter ever comes back, I want the rules to be that she doesn’t get put into extreme danger again” in the protocol that Maria set up, but I may be being unfair. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/150 "2021-01-30T19:07:36Z")
The protocol was put there by Maria, who died two years before anyone came back. That was just something for her peace of mind, in case her daughter ever came back. Which at that point was nothing short of hoping for a miracle. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/151 "2021-01-30T19:14:34Z")
I guess it had only been 3 weeks, and it takes a bit of time for changes to be made in any bureaucracy. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/152 "2021-01-30T21:14:56Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Near the end of Infinity War, during a battle in Wakanda, Thanos pulled the Mind Stone out of Vision’s forehead, apparently killing him. If you watch the Legends short, Vision’s look in the show when he’s shown dead is more reflective of what he looked like after _Wanda_ killed him by destroying the Stone. Something that was undone by Thanos using the Time Stone so that he could take it himself. This is the guilt trip to end all guilt trips. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/153 "2021-01-30T21:22:11Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > If you watch the Legends short, Vision’s look in the show when he’s shown dead is more reflective of what he looked like after _Wanda_ killed him by destroying the Stone. Something that was undone by Thanos using the Time Stone so that he could take it himself. This is the guilt trip to end all guilt trips. But it also had the chunk of forehead that Thanos ripped out when taking the stone. I think that wasn’t Wanda’s mind showing her Visions corpse, I think that was reality slipping through for a second and that was his actual corpse that she’s puppeteering around. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/154 "2021-01-30T21:44:06Z")
Yeah, you’re right. It’s been too long since I’ve seen it. When Wanda does it, he just explodes altogether. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/155 "2021-01-30T21:55:19Z")
I hadn’t remembered specifically, either. For reference, these two video clips (which are essentially back-to-back in the film): Part 1: Wanda destroying the Mind Stone, and killing Vision: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf4g-NMYu6Y) Part 2: Thanos reversing time, reassembling Vision, and then pulling the Mind Stone from his forehead: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sAF8q0_FqE) ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/156 "2021-01-30T22:33:30Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > It makes total sense to me that you not put that behind the “wheel” of an airplane or spaceship until everyone has had time to figure many things out. Also, not a good idea if that plane or spacecraft is new or has been upgraded in the last five years. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/157 "2021-01-30T22:47:53Z")
Speaking of that whole SWORD situation we’d not touched on the fact that TV shows are now killing off movie characters. Captain Marvel’s best friend from her movie just dies of camera, Agent’s of Shield would have never been allowed to do that. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/158 "2021-01-30T22:51:33Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > > [@muldoonthief](#): > > > > Well, there’s no Mind Stone in our reality anymore. But presumably Shuri was backing up all the data from her incomplete attempt to separate Vision from the Mind Stone, so they may be using that to reconstitute Vision. > > I have been thinking about that. The Infinity Stones were formed from “six singularities from before the Big Bang.” Could such a thing really be destroyed? I would imagine they would reform eventually. > > Five years is rather quick for such a thing to happen, though. Given that the Infinity Stones are magic beans, I suppose they can do whatever they want with them. I mean, given what they can do, it’s kind of absurd that they could be “destroyed” and “almost killed” Thanos as opposed to “destroyed and took half the universe along with it”. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/159 "2021-01-30T22:57:44Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > One thing that I didn’t quite understand was why there was a protocol that grounded anyone who came back. Not that they couldn’t pick it up eventually, but imagine showing up to work and all your knowledge of EVERYTHING was half a decade out of date. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/160 "2021-01-30T23:03:58Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Speaking of that whole SWORD situation we’d not touched on the fact that TV shows are now killing off movie characters. Captain Marvel’s best friend from her movie just dies of camera, Agent’s of Shield would have never been allowed to do that. And that death wasn’t really necessary for the story. The actress who played her in _Captain Marvel_ probably has no desire to age 30 years every time she is asked to reprise the role. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094.md?page=9)