# Wanna know who sucks? The new Hostess bakery. That's who.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 13, 2015, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053 "2015-09-13T12:35:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/1 "2015-09-13T12:35:58Z")

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Hostess used to be great. Now, they are shit. Every single one of their cupcakes that I’ve had since the new company started manufacturing them is shit.  
Every fucking one of them has been dry as a bone.

Fuck you, new Hostess! You Suck.  
Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/2 "2015-09-13T13:59:44Z")

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FWIW, Little Debbie was never any great shakes either.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/3 "2015-09-13T14:31:44Z")

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IMHO, Hostess lost their magic long before—probably about the time they stopped wrapping the Ding Dongs in foil.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/4 "2015-09-13T14:54:40Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> IMHO, Hostess lost their magic long before—probably about the time they stopped wrapping the Ding Dongs in foil.

It can never be a good idea to wrap your ding dong in foil.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/5 "2015-09-13T15:11:47Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> It can never be a good idea to wrap your ding dong in foil.

How else do you keep the aliens from listening to your ding dong?

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/6 "2015-09-13T16:04:43Z")

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I’m not much of a consumer of such things, but does it have anything to do with them removing trans-fats or monkeying with them some other way in order to make them healthier?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/7 "2015-09-13T16:07:50Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> It can never be a good idea to wrap your ding dong in foil.

Reynolds Wrap, Saran Wrap, whatever it takes.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/8 "2015-09-13T16:27:32Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> I’m not much of a consumer of such things, but does it have anything to do with them removing trans-fats or monkeying with them some other way in order to make them healthier?

The company chose to shut down rather than come to a contract agreement with its bakers. The brand has been sold off and relaunched by someone else. I expect that the new owners aren’t using exactly the same processes/facilities/personnel/ingredients that were used before.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/9 "2015-09-13T23:21:50Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> IMHO, Hostess lost their magic long before—probably about the time they stopped wrapping the Ding Dongs in foil.

Earlier still, when they stopped calling them King Dons sometimes and Ding Dongs others.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/10 "2015-09-13T23:37:16Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> It can never be a good idea to wrap your ding dong in foil.

Unless you’re about to do the Tin Man.

thank you! thank you! I’ll be here all night! Be sure to try the veal!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/11 "2015-09-14T00:01:24Z")

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Huh, they taste the same to me.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/12 "2015-09-14T00:29:16Z")

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Even before the bankruptcy I had noticed Twinkies had gotten greasier and smaller.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/13 "2015-09-14T01:14:16Z")

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Hostess fruit pies are a mere shadow of their former selves.  
The were terrible in their own awesome way that made them awesome in their terribleness.  
Now they’ve lost the awesome and all that’s left is the terrible.

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**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/14 "2015-09-14T04:42:28Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> How else do you keep the aliens from listening to your ding dong?

Rather, how else do you keep your ding dong from sensing the aliens?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/15 "2015-09-14T04:53:27Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Hostess fruit pies are a mere shadow of their former selves.  
> The were terrible in their own awesome way that made them awesome in their terribleness.  
> Now they’ve lost the awesome and all that’s left is the terrible.

One of my weird habits/indulgences is when I’d travel out west, if I was going to be taking a long drive, I’d get a Hostess blackberry pie for the trip. (I suspect it’s a regional thing; I’ve never seen the blackberry pies in the east.) You’re right, they aren’t what they once were. Seems to me that they put less filling in than they used to, which changes the vital filling-to-crust ratio. The last bite, filled to overflowing with blackberryness, was the best part.

Now, alas, the thrill is gone.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/16 "2015-09-14T08:17:27Z")

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The products don’t taste as good, and the shift of ownership successfully busted the union, so the inferior products are being made by workers making much less money with substantially worse benefits. Maybe we’re getting what Hostess is paying for.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/17 "2015-09-14T08:25:19Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Unless you’re about to do the Tin Man.

That’s how Oz didn’t give anything to the Tin Man that he didn’t already have.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/18 "2015-09-14T09:44:21Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> I’m not much of a consumer of such things, but does it have anything to do with them removing trans-fats or monkeying with them some other way in order to make them healthier?

I think it’s the new WE SUCK additive.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/19 "2015-09-14T09:45:56Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> The products don’t taste as good, and the shift of ownership successfully busted the union, so the inferior products are being made by workers making much less money with substantially worse benefits. Maybe we’re getting what Hostess is paying for.

Doubt that; the local distributor “Mrs. Baird” makes them quite well. They weren’t that good when Hostess went under, but, now, they are much better. (Not a shill for Mrs. Baird, it’s just that Hostess sucks. BTW, Hostess sucks.)

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanna-know-who-sucks-the-new-hostess-bakery-thats-who/731053/20 "2015-09-14T12:35:28Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> Doubt that; the local distributor “Mrs. Baird” makes them quite well. They weren’t that good when Hostess went under, but, now, they are much better. (Not a shill for Mrs. Baird, it’s just that Hostess sucks. BTW, Hostess sucks.)

I’m sorry, but I’m not clear on what this post is saying. Mrs. Baird is a local distributor of Hostess products? Are you saying that the Hostess products you buy are made under license by a local distributor? But Hostess sucks? But Mrs. Baird doesn’t?

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