# Wannabe-necrophile teen runs down jogger

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 1, 2003, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018 "2003-06-01T23:04:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/21 "2003-06-02T10:02:45Z")

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> Yes, as long as they know the difference between right and wrong.

Obviously from the rest of my post, that should just be ‘Yes.’

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/22 "2003-06-02T11:17:02Z")

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It’s a horrific story, and perhaps I shouldn’t even say this, but: _damn_ that thread title sure is a catchy headline. Cracked me up, until I read it was actually true, of course.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/23 "2003-06-02T11:53:59Z")

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Someone please hit Earth’s “reset” button.

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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/24 "2003-06-02T15:30:30Z")

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Try him, fry him.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/25 "2003-06-02T18:11:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*This is why we have prisons. Let’s hope he never gets out. \*\*

While the facts of this case certainly don’t make humanity look good, at least this thread shows some progression.

Why? Because it’s been 15 hours since someone’s mentioned “throw away the key” and no one yet has suggested the merits of compulsory buggery! There IS hope! 🆒

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**Author:** ![kenibbling\_pin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3be4f8/32.png) [@kenibbling\_pin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenibbling_pin)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/26 "2003-06-02T18:15:10Z")

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If he had just said " I killed her" he would have gone up the river

But he said " I’m a sick fuc\*er , I wanted to have sex with her corpse"

Now he’s not just another murderer, he’s a super freak.

Special ward, special media coverage, special medicine and special psychological condition that renders him unable to be held responsible for his crime.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/27 "2003-06-02T18:15:26Z")

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This guy is so totally brain dead and damaged that there’s only one thing for him.

A first class ticket on the B Ark.

When we supposed to start building that anyways? The longer we wait, the bigger we have to build the damned thing.

And I’m having problems not laughing when I tell these people about the Giant Space Goat.  
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Quote from sig line;

“Pathetic Earthlings! Hurling your bodies out into the void without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you knew anything about the true nature of the Universe, anything at all, you would have hidden from it in terror.”-----Ming The Merciless

Ah, my dear Ming, what makes you think we haven’t?

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**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/28 "2003-06-02T18:29:02Z")

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All those advocating the death penalty in this case should probably take note that the woman is still alive. No murder = no needle full of death. Sorry to burst that bubble…  
As to the sociopath/psycopath distinction–I had always heard that a psycopath doesn’t differentiate between right and wrong while a sociopath can, but just doesn’t give a damn. Was that completely off-base?

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/29 "2003-06-02T18:44:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DreadCthulhu \*  
> \*\*This kid is a total moron. Didn’t he realize that hitting her with the truck would probably damage her body way too much to easily have sex with? \*\*

Why do you keep posting abhorrent shit like this?

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/30 "2003-06-02T18:45:23Z")

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Wow, I’m speechless.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/31 "2003-06-02T18:54:16Z")

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Yep - off base **Bella**.

One distinction that I’ve heard is that they are the same thing, except a psychopath is violent.

Sociopaths don’t necessarily going around killing people - they just do things to further themselves without concern for others - that doesn’t necessarily mean offing people.

Psychopaths, OTOH, are violent.

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**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/32 "2003-06-02T19:09:41Z")

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Hmmm… I guess that’s what I get for reading so many trashy crime novels. 🙂 Thanks for the clarification, **Alice**.

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**Author:** ![Francis\_E\_Dec\_Esq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/48db29/32.png) [@Francis\_E\_Dec\_Esq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francis_E_Dec_Esq)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/33 "2003-06-02T21:53:28Z")

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I made some relevant comments here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=188124](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=188124)

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/34 "2003-06-03T00:19:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by alice\_in\_wonderland \*  
> \*\*One distinction that I’ve heard is that they are the same thing, except a psychopath is violent.
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> Sociopaths don’t necessarily going around killing people - they just do things to further themselves without concern for others - that doesn’t necessarily mean offing people.
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> Psychopaths, OTOH, are violent. \*\*

Good point.

IANAD, but the way I understand it, a sociopath is someone who wants not only to “pass” in society, but to elevate himself in it. A psychopath only conforms as much as he has to to escape detection.

Jayson Blair might be a sociopath, on the grounds that he was willing to stop at nothing to further his ambition. I don’t remember the official ruling on Ted Kazcyinski, but he probably falls into the psychopath category because he completely withdrew from society. I’ve heard Jeffrey Dahmer referred to as a sociopath, but that doesn’t sound right: he had no ambitions and was distinctly lacking in charm. Sociopaths can charm the wallet out of a Scotsman’s pocket (no offense to any Scots here!).

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/35 "2003-06-03T02:11:46Z")

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[Sigh}

And the great movement for acceptance of necrophiles is set back.

Again.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/36 "2003-06-04T17:09:27Z")

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[http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial\_killers/notorious/necrophiles/index\_1.html](http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/necrophiles/index_1.html)

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**Author:** ![Profane\_Creation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/839c29/32.png) [@Profane\_Creation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profane_Creation)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/37 "2003-06-04T17:39:11Z")

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Man, she must have been really hot. 😃😉

I’ve joked about bumping a woman’s car just so we’d have to get out and exchange info, but I never thought of actually running one over. This is, um, a bit extreme.

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/38 "2003-06-05T02:11:09Z")

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What a truly great age we live in, when news of unimaginable weirdness such as this can be disseminated to the far corners of the world in mere moments.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/39 "2003-06-05T05:07:05Z")

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Perhaps it is a great age, **neuroman** , when people like this get held up to public shame and ridicule.

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wannabe-necrophile-teen-runs-down-jogger/179018/40 "2003-06-05T06:05:15Z")

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It’s not like this guy wouldn’t have been shamed and ridiculed 30 years ago, it’s just that probably not nearly as many people outside of his state would hear about it.

Also, **Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor** ’s link was truly disturbing. Half the time I was fascinated and/or laughing at the sheer perversity, the other half of the time I felt ill. ::shiver::

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