# “Want to earn money? Steal beer!”

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** beer\
**Created:** [April 6, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949 "2024-04-06T18:31:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/1 "2024-04-06T18:31:23Z")

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According to this article, you could make 100K a night. I didn’t know Modelo was so valuable.

> **[Eight men charged by feds with robbing train cars carrying Corona and Modelo...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/eight-men-charged-feds-robbing-train-cars-carrying-corona-modelo-cases-rcna146712)**
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> One of the ringleaders advertised for recruits on Instagram by promising the chance to earn money via "the beer train method."

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/2 "2024-04-06T21:50:23Z")

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Read it again.

They stole multiple $100K worth of beer over 2 years.

The hired teams of thieves were paid “hundreds of dollars a night.” Maybe that’s 4 guys sharing $800, so not great wages, but better than working at McDs.

The recruiting ads claimed a good worker could make $100k+ per month. If legit business recruiters lie massively about the income potential of piecework- or commission-based jobs, how honest do you think a criminal gang recruiter would be?

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/3 "2024-04-06T22:48:02Z")

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> The men face seven federal criminal counts, including charges under the 1946 Hobbs Act governing interference with interstate commerce, equating to decades of prison time.

Now that’s what I call a bad hangover.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/4 "2024-04-06T23:52:13Z")

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Yeah, the OP’s summary is … piss poor at best. An AI would summarize it better than that.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/5 "2024-04-07T00:28:00Z")

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Deleted. Thought better of my words.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/6 "2024-04-07T00:35:53Z")

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Jeeze…harsh crowd here. The ads said they could make $100K+ per month. Maybe not that much in a night, but close enough. Of course, all reasonable folks would pass over any ads like that, but they weren’t aiming for reasonable.

Anyway, interesting story. And something not mentioned in the story (please forgive me if I missed this and don’t crucify me or say AI is smarter than me…I fucking already know that!): How did the ringleader know where the beer was located?

Edit to add that they targeted beverage distribution centers. OK, got it. They were going to the Corona or Modelo distribution centers. Not just picking train cars at random and hoping they had some beer.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/7 "2024-04-07T00:42:39Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> The ads said they could make $100K+ per month.

Which is still an order of magnitude plus (without context) of what was claimed in the OP. Sorry, I’ve been lately rating human vs AI summaries and so my irritation may be bleeding into my response.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/8 "2024-04-07T00:44:21Z")

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The pay may not be great, but I bet they got free beer, so that’s something.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/9 "2024-04-07T00:46:38Z")

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Humans make mistakes. AI is not supposed to but it still struggles to add 2+2. I like to cut the humans the slack and make fun of AI.

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> The pay may not be great, but I bet they got free beer, so that’s something.

Would you like $100 for your night or 10 cases of beer? I know which I would take 🍻

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/10 "2024-04-07T00:55:17Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Humans make mistakes. AI is not supposed to but it still struggles to add 2+2. I like to cut the humans the slack and make fun of AI.

Yeah, but this is where I want basic human summaries to win. _That’s_ my irritation.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/11 "2024-04-07T00:58:38Z")

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My biggest irritation is it takes so much fucking electrical power for AI to be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/12 "2024-04-07T00:59:22Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Yeah, but this is where I want basic human summaries to win.

So now I’m basic? (100% kidding.)

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/13 "2024-04-07T02:24:57Z")

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Hey, keep your hands off that stuff. That beer’s from one of the few local firms doing good business.

“[Constellation Brands](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_Brands) has two breweries in Mexico that produce Corona and Modelo beer for the US market.”

That’s right. Corona and Modelo - now the bestselling beer in America - are made by an Upstate New York company. Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/14 "2024-04-07T06:27:40Z")

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I know of Corona, but had not heard of Modelo until today.

As an amateur brewer and hater of Corona, I would urge these thieves to target breweries that bottle their beer in dark glass.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/15 "2024-04-07T06:46:39Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Would you like $100 for your night or 10 cases of beer?

10 cases? Sorry, but I’m unwilling to cut back drinking that much.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/16 "2024-04-07T08:55:42Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> How did the ringleader know where the beer was located?

How did they get the beer out? $100,000 worth of beer (per night, month, or whatever) works out to about 3,000 cases, which weighs 120,000 pounds. According to one online calculator, that would require 4 semi trailers. Are the theives carrying the beer out by hand through a hole in the fence? Does no one notice a semi trailer parked by the fence gradually being loaded up with beer?

I feel like James Bond doing the math to figure out how many trucks it would take to steal the gold from Fort Knox.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/17 "2024-04-08T23:36:55Z")

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Modelo isn’t bad at all. Both their light and dark versions are better than Coors/Bud/Miller etc.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/18 "2024-04-08T23:52:51Z")

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My beef is that _Negra Modelo_ used to be a very common beer at Mexican restaurants. It’s good, and it’s always been hard to find anywhere other than at Mexican restaurants.

So then Modelo (the brewery) came out with the lager _Modelo Especiale_ which is not materially different from every other Mexican lager such as _Corona_, _Pacifico_, etc. Nothing wrong with it, but nothing especially right either.

Which then caused most Mexican restaurants to drop _Negra_ for _Especiale_ and now finding _Negra_ anywhere is hard.

Of course if more Americans wanted anything but insipid lagers as beer we’d have less of these kinds of problems.

[RANT off]

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/want-to-earn-money-steal-beer/999949/19 "2024-04-09T01:07:36Z")

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Modelo Especial dates back to 1925, according to their own website. Hot climates tend to like light lagers. It’s not just an “American” thing.
