# Wanted to buy ME-262

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 23, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769 "2013-03-23T21:55:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/41 "2013-03-25T04:30:58Z")

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I want my flying car, dammit! They been promising it to me since I was a kid.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/42 "2013-03-25T08:14:01Z")

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I find it hard to believe that somewhere, probably in Russia, there isn’t another AR-234.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/43 "2013-03-25T13:15:32Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> [Just thought I’d throw this in because I stumbled across the video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tq-wlspDb8). A De Havilland Caribou (twin props, tricycle gear cargo plane)“landing” on only it’s nose wheel. In fact it never really lands, it just pushes the nose wheel down onto the ground and flies that way a bit, the noses up and away.

Viking Air says it will be restarting production of the Buffalo. (The Buffalo was de Haviland’s replacement/upgrade for the Caribou. Viking Air now has the production rights.)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/44 "2013-03-25T13:17:34Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> My dream plane is affordable - I want a Aero Coup. The little bugger with the funky tail. Problem is my health and the physical and all to go for a license.

You mean an Ercoupe? The earlier models qualify as Light Sport Aircraft, and you don’t need a medical certificate to fly those. A Sport Pilot license has fewer requirements than a Private, too.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/45 "2013-03-26T03:00:50Z")

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I built a 1/72nd scale Me-262 when I was a kid and always loved that plane. Just a few weeks ago I had the chance to see one up close and personal, at the Natl. Museum of the USAF in Dayton - well worth a visit, for that and many other cool aircraft: [http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=509](http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=509)

But you can’t buy one there. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/46 "2013-03-26T03:46:58Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I want my flying car, dammit! They been promising it to me since I was a kid.

[Here you go](http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/AEROCAR-ONE/1954-AEROCAR-ONE/1223471.htm). Just buy it. 😉

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/47 "2013-03-26T04:50:38Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I built a 1/72nd scale Me-262 when I was a kid and always loved that plane. Just a few weeks ago I had the chance to see one up close and personal, at the Natl. Museum of the USAF in Dayton - well worth a visit, for that and many other cool aircraft: [http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=509](http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=509)
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> But you can’t buy one there. Sorry.

I wonder if they will let me take it out and “wash” it? Ya know being a good citizen, doing my patriotic duty, yadda yadda yadda.

Shoot I wasn’t supposed to say yadda

**Capt**

Remember to edit this before you hit subm

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/48 "2013-03-26T06:20:29Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> In contrast, a British group has a Gloster Meteor still flying on its original engines.

and with good reason. The British and the Germans developed both the centrifugal and axial flow jet engine but the Brits chose the centrifugal design because it was more reliable. the axial flow engine was a grenade waiting for the pin to be pulled. Metallurgy just wasn’t there yet for the stresses of an axial flow jet engine.

The centrifugal engine didn’t spool up very quickly so landing a plane with one required the pilot to keep it spooled up for a go-around which in turn required a lot of flaps to slow it down. I think the flaps on the Vampire would extend 90 degrees.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/49 "2013-03-26T06:31:34Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> [Just thought I’d throw this in because I stumbled across the video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tq-wlspDb8). A De Havilland Caribou (twin props, tricycle gear cargo plane)“landing” on only it’s nose wheel. In fact it never really lands, it just pushes the nose wheel down onto the ground and flies that way a bit, the noses up and away.

I was thinking something along the lines of an OV-1 or an A-10 but a Caribou would fit in there somewhere. I want something big that can swoop down with a bit of attitude.

I always wondered what WW-II would have been like if we flew nothing but A-10’s. theoretically it was possible to build it. It had twice the payload of a B-17 and could have been it’s own fighter escort.

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**Author:** ![Av8trix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/90db22/32.png) [@Av8trix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Av8trix)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/50 "2013-03-26T07:53:17Z")

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I’ll take a Grumman Albatross, a custom “winnebago” interior, and enjoy exploring 70% of the Earth’s surface. Should take me a bit, I may never leave the South Pacific.😃

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/51 "2013-03-26T12:42:57Z")

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> [@Av8trix](#):
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> I’ll take a Grumman Albatross, a custom “winnebago” interior, and enjoy exploring 70% of the Earth’s surface. Should take me a bit, I may never leave the South Pacific.😃

Nice plane, found 17 for sale with a quick google. Looks like 300k puts you in one. Some nice corporate campers too including the orig “Billabong” plane.

**Capt**

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/52 "2013-03-26T13:54:07Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> The centrifugal engine didn’t spool up very quickly so landing a plane with one required the pilot to keep it spooled up for a go-around which in turn required a lot of flaps to slow it down.

Early axial engines were pretty slow, too, with all the rotating mass of the disks needed to hold the blades in place. A B-47 was normally landed with near full power on, and a drag chute deployed to cause the descent (the tower would be asked to clear a “jet penetration” 😉 ). For a go-around, the pilot would jettison the chute and not have to sweat out the power-up. The second approach would be a little dicier, of course.

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/53 "2013-03-26T20:25:28Z")

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Hmm, if you have disgusting amounts of capital why not have a scratch built [Ho-229](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229http://)? Nothing like having the first jet powered flying wing Nazi stealth plane to impress the neighbors…  
Me I’d want a [Grumman Goose](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_Goosehttp://) for island hopping or a [Beech Staggerwing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_Staggerwinghttp://)… pretty pretty pretty.

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**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/54 "2013-03-27T02:05:44Z")

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As a hijack for the obvious pilots that live here, I’d like to suggest a book to read.  
[The Cannibal Queen](http://www.amazon.com/Cannibal-Queen-Stephen-Coonts/dp/0671038494) by Stephen Coonts.

It’s a non-fiction journal of his cross-country trip in a '42 Stearman one summer.  
You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you’ll leave it in the bathroom for something to read…

I’d like to do the same thing every other year!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/55 "2013-03-27T12:48:47Z")

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That was outstanding, and so are a couple of other books I can recommend about flying across the US just for the adventure of it: Richard Bach’s _Biplane_, and especially Rinker Buck’s _Flight of Passage_.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wanted-to-buy-me-262/653769/56 "2013-03-27T13:46:31Z")

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> [@swampspruce](#):
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> Hmm, if you have disgusting amounts of capital why not have a scratch built [Ho-229](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229http://)? Nothing like having the first jet powered flying wing Nazi stealth plane to impress the neighbors…  
> Me I’d want a [Grumman Goose](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_Goosehttp://) for island hopping or a [Beech Staggerwing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_Staggerwinghttp://)… pretty pretty pretty.

Fixed links:

> **[Horten Ho 229](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229)**
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> The Horten H.IX, RLM designation Ho 229 (or Gotha Go 229 for extensive re-design work done by Gotha to prepare the aircraft for mass production) was a German prototype fighter/bomber designed by Reimar and Walter Horten to be built by Gothaer Waggonfabrik. Developed at a late stage of the Second World War, it was one of the earliest flying wing aircraft to be powered by jet engines.
> The Ho 229 was designed in response to a call made in 1943 by Hermann Göring, the head of the Luftwaffe, for light...

> **[Grumman G-21 Goose](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_Goose)**
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> The Grumman G-21 Goose is an amphibious flying boat designed by Grumman to serve as an eight-seat "commuter" aircraft for businessmen in the Long Island area. The Goose was Grumman's first monoplane to fly, its first twin-engined aircraft, and its first aircraft to enter commercial airline service. During World War II, the Goose became an effective transport for the US military (including the United States Coast Guard), as well as serving with many other air forces. During hostilities, the Goose ...

> **[Beechcraft Model 17 Staggerwing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_Staggerwing)**
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> The Beechcraft Model 17 Staggerwing is an American biplane with an atypical negative wing stagger (the lower wing is farther forward than the upper wing). It first flew in 1932, and was sold on the civilian market, being used for transport and air racing. During World War II, it was used by allied forces, and after the war continued in civilian production until 1949, with 785 having been produced.
> In 1932, Walter H. Beech, formerly head of the aircraft manufacturer Travel Air, left Curtiss-Wr...

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