# War, Children, just a shot away ( Jagger ) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 26, 2010, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-children-just-a-shot-away-jagger/555081 "2010-09-26T10:08:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zanthor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@Zanthor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zanthor)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-children-just-a-shot-away-jagger/555081/1 "2010-09-26T10:08:01Z")
Britain has warned the United States that the military will not be able to fight another war like Afghanistan. lol, here the war ppl ( mongers ) are saying, no more war, not cause all the reasons we slaughter other countries are bogus, fake, invented lies, but no more war cos its just too darned expensive… thank God for small mercies then, on the part of the countries we lay waste to… or not… depends on who is paying, so it seems. [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8021906/Britain-tells-US-we-cannot-fight-another-Afghanistan.html](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8021906/Britain-tells-US-we-cannot-fight-another-Afghanistan.html) excerpt from article. Liam Fox, the Defence Secretary, told his counterparts in the US that the Armed Forces would only be able to provide the manpower for medium-scale conflicts or for support in large conflicts where others took a greater part. Dr Fox told said that the military could only deploy 6,000 troops to any one war zone, The Times reported. Around 10,000 are currently committed to Afghanistan. He reassured them that Britain’s nuclear deterrent would remain. article continues… last sentence blows me away, quote. He reassured them that Britain’s nuclear deterrent would remain. of course it does, its the final big stick we hold the world to ransom with… so, question, we wage wars cos they are good, holy, righteous, right up until they seem too expensive. not righteous no more, not worth the cost… then we pull out, say, ‘mission accomplished’? so, just who do we think we are kidding? what about the damage already leveled against them foreign folk, don’t matter at all? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-children-just-a-shot-away-jagger/555081/2 "2010-09-26T15:11:38Z")
So, are you saying there should be on cost benefit analysis to an intervention overseas? This is not a “pay an price” situation like in WWII, where Britain was fighting for its very existence. This is what Britain is willing to do to intervene in conflicts that may or not be of direct benefit to Britain, as an ally of the US. I know you want to find some hypocrisy among the “war mongers”, but you haven’t. Better luck next time. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-children-just-a-shot-away-jagger/555081/3 "2010-09-26T15:23:44Z")
Why have you abandoned Seals and Crofts for Mick Jagger (not that I am complaining)? ---
**Author:** ![Mozart1220](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Mozart1220](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mozart1220)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-children-just-a-shot-away-jagger/555081/4 "2010-09-26T21:06:23Z")
Terrorism is a TACTIC, and will never be beaten at all, let alone by the military. The only force we have is local police and entities like the FBI and CIA. ---
**Author:** ![Zanthor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@Zanthor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zanthor)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-children-just-a-shot-away-jagger/555081/5 "2010-09-27T12:16:52Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > So, are you saying there should be on cost benefit analysis to an intervention overseas? > > This is not a “pay an price” situation like in WWII, where Britain was fighting for its very existence. This is what Britain is willing to do to intervene in conflicts that may or not be of direct benefit to Britain, as an ally of the US. > > I know you want to find some hypocrisy among the “war mongers”, but you haven’t. Better luck next time. No, not at all, i am NOT saying as you suggest. Are you saying we were fighting for existence when we fabricated reasons to invade other countries? like Britain did in WW2? C’mon now, i know you want to… I personally would welcome all the war ppl running out of toothpaste if it would stop them killing each other. good attempt at focus shifting tho. The article suggested that following blindly into one more ( misbegotten ) war would / could be considered too expensive. face value, straight up. about Hypocrisy, you think creating invented wars not hypocrisy enough? How about so called ‘Leaders’ going on the speaking circuit making zillions when actually they should be horse drawn and quartered…? sides. The UK is too busy profiting from wars to bother fighting them as they did in the Empire days. > **[UK tops world table of weapons sales](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/21/armstrade.saudiarabia)** > > Controversial deal with Saudi Arabia catapults Britain to top of last year's world arms export league "UK tops world table of weapons sales… According to the latest annual report on weapons-related exports, the government in 2006 approved arms exports to 19 of the 20 countries it identified as “countries of concern” for abusing human rights…" ---
**Author:** ![Zanthor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@Zanthor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zanthor)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-children-just-a-shot-away-jagger/555081/6 "2010-09-27T12:28:26Z")
The Tao. ( 6 ) The valley spirit never dies, its is the woman, primal mother. etc > [@Jackmannii](#): > > Why have you abandoned Seals and Crofts for Mick Jagger (not that I am complaining)? (9 ) Better to stop short than fill to the brim.. etc anyway, The WWII economic mentality has truly run it’s course. [http://www.alternet.org/world/148094/america's\_empire\_and\_endless\_wars\_are\_destroying\_the\_world,\_and\_ruining\_our\_great\_country/?page=entire](http://www.alternet.org/world/148094/america%27s_empire_and_endless_wars_are_destroying_the_world,_and_ruining_our_great_country/?page=entire) “America’s Empire and Endless Wars Are Destroying the World, and Ruining Our Great Country For more than 50 years, Washington has subscribed to the absurd notion that America can police the world with military action. All we’ve managed to do is bankrupt our country…” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-children-just-a-shot-away-jagger/555081/7 "2010-09-27T14:22:46Z")
**Zanthor** : consider getting a blog. If you can’t be bothered to be coherent, you shouldn’t take up space on this forum.