# war  declaration on hitler??? why?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 6, 2000, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251 "2000-12-06T03:27:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sarteve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@sarteve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sarteve)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/1 "2000-12-06T03:27:31Z")

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as a brit i can’t understand why we declared war on hitler??  
he annexed poland into germany for there own protection!!!  
whats it got to do with everyone else??  
the russians invaded poland ten days after to taKE LAND AND NOTHING WAS SAID???

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/2 "2000-12-06T04:02:03Z")

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Never again will I let an Englishman make fun of Americans for their lack of language skills.

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/3 "2000-12-06T04:26:07Z")

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Hmm… newbie, posting something potentially inflammatory, bad grammar, and in the pit.

Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Flypsyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@Flypsyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flypsyde)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/4 "2000-12-06T04:27:51Z")

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I, Flypsyde, being of august personage, hereby annex sarteve’s abode and the belongings therein.

For his/her own protection, of course.

I fully expect there to be no declaration of war from sarteve, as his/her sovereignty is obviously of no consequence in this matter.

Thank you. And take that damn kidney pie with you when you go. That spotted dick as well, there’s a pip.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/5 "2000-12-06T04:36:59Z")

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Don’t forget the Toad in the Hole.

::Shudder::

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/6 "2000-12-06T04:39:52Z")

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Ogre

have you ever actually eaten a Toad in the Hole? Leaving the name out of it, they are nice :). IMO at least.

The Sussex Pond Pudding was a dismal failure though…

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/7 "2000-12-06T04:52:31Z")

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Yes, Primaflora, I have, and I must apologize. I actually like them. My best friend’s wife (a Brit in good standing) makes them for me all the time. I humbly bow and scrape for forgiveness, since I’ve been called out. I was just trying to go along with the spirit of the thread, since our OP seems to be such a pinhead.

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/8 "2000-12-06T05:09:11Z")

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Well yeah sarteve seems to be thick as shit but I am glad you like Toad in the Hole 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/9 "2000-12-06T05:12:49Z")

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Out of curiosity, are you British?

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**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/10 "2000-12-06T05:25:45Z")

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How is it possible that a Brit has such a faulty understanding of World War II? As a baseline, I’d expect at least a jingoistic support of the Allies’ role in that little tiff.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/11 "2000-12-06T06:45:04Z")

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What exactly IS a toad in the hole? I used to know, but I’ve forgotten.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/12 "2000-12-06T07:00:13Z")

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Yeeesh, **Opal** , don’t you ever read these boards? 😉

[British cuisine](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=13305)  
(Toad in Hole, Spotted Dick, and several others, including recipes)

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/13 "2000-12-06T11:05:47Z")

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\<British historian banging head on wall in frustration\>

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/14 "2000-12-06T14:32:37Z")

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OpalCat,

A toad in the hole is an unfortunately named British dish. Is consists of sausage baked inside a thick, very slightly sweet, biscuit-y sort of dough. They’re good.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/15 "2000-12-06T14:34:21Z")

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OK,

According to tomndebb’s reference, the dough is not supposed to be sweet at all. Regional difference, perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/16 "2000-12-06T15:49:39Z")

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You people all suck. The newbie asked a legitimate question and all you can do is make fun of his grammar, his spelling, his nationality, his breath and then run off on a tangent about stickwick staples and Toad the Wet Sprocket.

If we keep this up, the thread will be closed and no one will get to talk about anything anymore. I for one want to fight ignorance and so I feel it is my responsibility, nay, my duty, to explain to this person exactly why Britain declared war on Hitler:

Hitler baaaaaaad  
Allies goooooood  
Cows go moo.  
There. All settled. carry on.

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**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/17 "2000-12-06T16:17:00Z")

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Ogre, It’s batter (just like a thick pancake batter), not dough and it shouldn’t be sweet at all. You might have had it with onion gravy, which can sometimes make it taste a bit sweet.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/18 "2000-12-06T16:18:39Z")

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As an avid history buff, and no great fan of Adolph Hitler, I have been following this thread closely. Alot of differing opinions and statements have been bandied about. Being a seeker of truth and an eradicator of ignorance, I feel we need some clarification, to wit:

Is a Toad in the Hole just a really big Pig in a Blanket?

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/19 "2000-12-06T16:28:24Z")

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An astute question, Jack, and one which strikes to the heart of world politics at the time of Hitler’s ascension. At the risk of sounding partisan, I will expose myself to criticism by answering your query in the most direct manner possible.

Toad in the hole, to all appearances, seems to be several pigs in a really big blanket.

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**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2000, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-declaration-on-hitler-why/44251/20 "2000-12-06T16:35:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Is a Toad in the Hole just a really big Pig in a Blanket?

Sounds like a related idea. I’d say sort of like a whole sty.

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