# War Plans Signal Screwup- The Atlantic is publishing the full messages **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 26, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136 "2025-03-26T12:54:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/221 "2025-04-17T16:22:01Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > But by then, the clumsy attempt at sleight of hand is sufficient for the intended audience. See, that’s where Trump is gifted. Those tiny digits make it so easy! /s ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/222 "2025-04-17T17:37:45Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > I don’t personally suspect this has anything to do with that. > > They said it was for leaking, which the Signal screwup wasn’t really leaking, in my opinion. > > To me, leaking is “psst- I’m going to tell you a secret” > > The Signal thing was just carelessness. Same effect, sure, but different sins. I read that it had to do with leaking the news of Elon Musk getting access to a top secret military briefing on China, which was canceled when the planned meeting was made public. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/223 "2025-04-18T00:46:44Z")
That’s what I read, also. Can’t recall the source; might have been someone on Bluesky posting an article from another source. Pretty sure it wasn’t CNN. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/224 "2025-04-18T12:26:47Z")
> [@IkesAcolyte](#): > > Regardless of if it doesn’t really matter, the administration wants to continue to appear “infallible,” My point is that they don’t, remotely, appear to be infallible and so far know one in the Trump regime has suffered any real consequences for their actions, so why bother throwing someone under the bus. > [@IkesAcolyte](#): > > Someone has to take the blame publicly If they didn’t fire someone, even if they publicly denied responsibility, something we’ve seen their leader do, then what? Is anyone going to get dragged into court over this? Are there going to be any investigations? Is someone going to get impeached? Probably not. Also, since I didn’t see it posted here yet: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cw1tNTIEs-o/maxresdefault.jpg "Signal War Plans v.s. Hillary's Emails") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw1tNTIEs-o) ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/225 "2025-04-21T05:51:19Z")
Hegseth did it again. This time he shared classified strike information on Signal with his wife and brother. > **[Hegseth Shared Yemen Strike Details with Family in Second Signal Chat: Reports](https://ground.news/article/hegseth-used-private-signal-chat-to-share-yemen-strike-details-with-family?utm_source=mobile-app&utm_medium=newsroom-share)** > > Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth created another Signal messaging chat that included his wife and brother where he shared similar details of a March military airstrike against Yemen’s Houthi militants that were sent in another chain with top Trump... He just has no fucking common sense. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/226 "2025-04-21T11:39:37Z")
Of course he doesn’t. Common sense would be a disqualifying condition for a role in trump’s criminal regime. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/227 "2025-04-21T13:08:03Z")
Trump’s all about cents, not sense! (Ba-dum tish!) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/228 "2025-04-21T15:36:56Z")
[Former Pentagon official warns department’s dysfunction could topple Hegseth](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/20/ullyot-pentagon-hegseth-chaos-00300695) > The Pentagon is in “total chaos” and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is unlikely to remain in his role, according to its former top spokesperson, who painted a scene of dysfunction, backstabbing and continuous missteps at the highest levels of the department. > The remarkable accusations by a former official — who left only two days ago and insists he still supports the Trump administration’s national security policies — underscores the infighting and upheaval that has turned increasingly public in recent weeks. [![](https://media.tenor.com/-rQMpfyncZAAAAAM/excited.gif) ](https://media.tenor.com/-rQMpfyncZAAAAAM/excited.gif) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/229 "2025-04-21T17:19:30Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Hegseth did it again. This time he shared classified strike information on Signal with his wife and brother. Why not just turn these into Zoom calls that anyone can join-- for a modest fee, of course. In fact 🤔 _(getting an idea)_ how about just selling subscriptions to these calls? Bet they could raise a boatload of cash from interested citizens and foreign gummints who want to see inside the workings of U.S. (so-called) foreign policy. Yeah, that’s the ticket. > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > who painted a scene of dysfunction, backstabbing and continuous missteps at the highest levels of the department. This makes it even more appealing. Like the trashiest reality show. The ratings will be through the roof. That will please Donnie. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/230 "2025-04-21T18:30:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@ekedolphin](#): > > > > Hegseth did it again. This time he shared classified strike information on Signal with his wife and brother. > > Why not just turn these into Zoom calls that anyone can join-- for a modest fee, of course. I was going to suggest Facebook. > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Trump’s all about cents, not sense! (Ba-dum tish!) All dollars and no sense. ---
**Author:** ![IkesAcolyte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ikesacolyte/32/19012_2.png) [@IkesAcolyte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IkesAcolyte)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/231 "2025-04-21T18:33:26Z")
You’re telling me putting a chronic alcoholic with zero high-level leadership experience in command of the world’s largest and most complicated bureacracy will only result in disaster? Color me amazed! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/232 "2025-04-21T19:59:54Z")
But you have to admit the guy has true TV anchorman hair. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/233 "2025-04-21T20:47:17Z")
NPR reports that the White House has begun looking for Hegseth’s replacement, per an insider. [https://www.npr.org/2025/04/21/nx-s1-5371312/trump-white-house-pete-hegseth-defense-department](https://www.npr.org/2025/04/21/nx-s1-5371312/trump-white-house-pete-hegseth-defense-department) ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/234 "2025-04-21T20:49:34Z")
Does this imply that people in the Washington DC area should assume that anybody chatting them up at the local bar probably works for Trump? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/235 "2025-04-21T21:00:27Z")
You mean Putin? Nobody “works for Trump.” He’s just a mid-level manager. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/236 "2025-04-21T21:04:22Z")
I laughed: > **[https://preview.redd.it/srykdwa1h3we1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=6748312cb6e2ba36849c7...](https://preview.redd.it/srykdwa1h3we1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=6748312cb6e2ba36849c7f8bc59b7f4328902abd)** ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/237 "2025-04-21T21:05:38Z")
I bet it was more than twice. But, point taken (and funny). ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/238 "2025-04-21T21:06:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > But you have to admit the guy has true TV anchorman hair. Have you seen the video of him ranting at the press at the Whitehouse Easter event? People are pointing out that his sideburns are two different lengths. And not “You have to get close and measure them” different. Like, “One is at the top of his ear, the other past the bottom of the ear” different. Plus, it’s hilarious to see the looks on his kids faces as he tries to make them into props in the middle of his rant. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/239 "2025-04-21T22:33:29Z")
Will we soon have a “Hegseth” time to go along with the “Scaramucci”? The possibilities are endless… ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136/240 "2025-04-21T22:46:26Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > NPR reports that the White House has begun looking for Hegseth’s replacement, per an insider. > > [White House looking to replace Pete Hegseth as defense secretary : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2025/04/21/nx-s1-5371312/trump-white-house-pete-hegseth-defense-department) I would just like to point out that NPR is usually very careful about reporting events until they are sure they have their facts right. Of course, this administration denies there is any problem until suddenly he has to leave to spend more time with his family (or whatever euphemism they are using these days). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/war-plans-signal-screwup-the-atlantic-is-publishing-the-full-messages/1016136.md?page=13)