# Warehouse 13
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [July 8, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320 "2009-07-08T12:22:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/81 "2009-07-15T18:56:04Z")
> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Yeah, that’s pretty much my reaction. Still, I’ll admit that this episode was better than the pilot, and may have laid some groundwork for at least a season arc with the hack and Artie stuff.
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> **Still want to know what the deal is with the football, though** …
I’ll bet it never gets mentioned, it just is. Like the three sea shells.😃
I do think it circles the Earth.
Thread on the [SyFy forums](http://forums.syfy.com/index.php?showtopic=2334381) discussing the football.
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### Author:  [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/82 "2009-07-15T19:00:57Z")
And apparently you don’t have to aim it. Regardless of how or where you throw it, when it comes back it hits the warehouse wall in pretty much the same spot.
Seems to be a over narrow and stupidly specific piece of magic. Which means it was purchased originaly at Williams Sonoma.
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### Author:  [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/83 "2009-07-15T19:10:05Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> And apparently you don’t have to aim it. Regardless of how or where you throw it, when it comes back it hits the warehouse wall in pretty much the same spot.
Also, it’s return time seems to be known. Pete had set his watch alarm. When it rang, he went outside, in a little bit more of a rush when he learned Myka was outside on her phone..
J.
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/84 "2009-07-15T19:30:52Z")
I like the idea proposed at the end of the episode that it’s not their job to catch the bad guys. All they’re supposed to do is find and collect the objects.
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### Author:  [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/85 "2009-07-15T19:38:26Z")
> [@runner pat](#):
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> I’ll bet it never gets mentioned, it just is. Like the three sea shells.😃
Fair Warning to SyFy:
After the recent _All Along the Watchtower_ fiasco with the mongolian clusterfuck of a series finale for Battlestar Galactica, if you do not explain the football fully and to my satisfaction, I’m gonna…hmmm…huff and puff and blow your house down…or something equally heinous…so don’t make me do it.
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### Author:  [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/86 "2009-07-15T19:40:21Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I like the idea proposed at the end of the episode that it’s not their job to catch the bad guys. All they’re supposed to do is find and collect the objects.
I don’t really like that as a series hook. If they push it too far, every episode may as well be titled “Find the McGuffin”, and the show will suck.
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/87 "2009-07-15T20:09:39Z")
Well, the whole thing with the hacker and Artie’s premonition seems to be setting up a larger arc.
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### Author:  [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/88 "2009-07-15T20:14:17Z")
Given that the FBI knows about the engineer, chances are that they’ll be able to pick up most of the pieces and figure it out.
But, they won’t have the record, and presumably Warehouse 13 would squash any real details about how it works.
So at best, the FBI would go to a jury trial accusing the friends and family of a dying man of robbing banks by playing an unidentified 45? That seems unlikely to go well in a courtroom.
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### Author:  [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/89 "2009-07-15T21:03:24Z")
I enjoy the dangling mysteries and loved the “Kodak moment”. I got the impression that the football, when thrown, goes waaay far as if propelled by superhuman strength, and logically concluded that it went around the world.
I’m liking this more and more, especially as the warm and fuzzy elements are developed. So far it hasn’t devolved into the stupid cutesy territory that turned me off to Eureka in the 2nd (?) season.
I missed the Lewis Carroll label. I bet there are numerous Easter Eggs in each episode, one of the charming things about huge warehouses. Please all continue to alert the less observant of us to these!
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### Author:  [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/90 "2009-07-15T21:07:59Z")
> [@dzeiger](#):
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> So at best, the FBI would go to a jury trial accusing the friends and family of a dying man of robbing banks by playing an unidentified 45? That seems unlikely to go well in a courtroom.
Well…there would be plenty of other evidence…those costumes the bank robbers wore…the getaway vehicle likely registered to one of the defendants…forensics from the vehicle and possibly from one or more of the banks…and Pete & Myka are both subject to being subpoena’d as prosecution witnesses. Really doubt a federal agent would be willing to commit perjury to protect bank robbers…even sympathetic bank robbers.
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### Author:  [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/91 "2009-07-15T21:11:41Z")
I very much enjoyed the Dark Vader Look cool factor of the costumes used as sound system!
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### Author:  [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/92 "2009-07-16T02:36:33Z")
I’ve only seen the pilot, but liked it enough that I’ll watch more. It was a bit of a pastiche of a lot of other shows, but it had style.
Anyone else recognise Artie from the first episode of Leverage? Though when I saw him in that, I recognised him from Eureka, and of course overall from Frasier. He’s been around a bit - though, oddly, never in the X-Files.
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> If it only worked with two people’s hand on it, how did Artie run it when he didn’t have two extra people around?
That confused me too, but the friend I was watching with said the cart was probably powered by two hands _per person_ on the cart. It’s actually pretty efficient, really - no need for any other fuel.
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### Author:  [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/93 "2009-07-16T03:57:23Z")
> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Well…there would be plenty of other evidence…those costumes the bank robbers wore…the getaway vehicle likely registered to one of the defendants…forensics from the vehicle and possibly from one or more of the banks…and Pete & Myka are both subject to being subpoena’d as prosecution witnesses. Really doubt a federal agent would be willing to commit perjury to protect bank robbers…even sympathetic bank robbers.
I think any attempt to subpoena Pete or Myka would get a visit from Mrs. Fredricks, or at least an official document squashing the idea on national security grounds. Indeed, they may want to squash the entire thing regardless–I didn’t see anything implied that there was anything mystical about the record, in theory it could be reproduced. Putting anyone on the stand who might talk about it and give someone the idea to try and reproduce it might be a bad idea.
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### Author:  [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/94 "2009-07-16T05:09:04Z")
I’m out. I cannot tolerate the woman who plays Myka. Something about her just gets under my skin. Too bad it couldn’t be just Pete and Artie playing around in that warehouse…that I could get into but this is just…no. Those two would have a blast in there together! They should be showing us the stuff in the warehouse and how it was discovered and how it could be used. And why do they have to be secret service agents in order to do this? Because we’ve already used up our quota of CIA and FBI and, certainly, regular cops on TV?
The pilot was bad enough. I liked the background info and tour of the warehouse but the whole plot with the look at the comb and be mesmerized crap was too cheesy. And this episode was just extra cheese. Cute bank robbing family! Record that causes people to feel love. Ew.
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### Author:  [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/95 "2009-07-16T05:09:31Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> I’ve only seen the pilot, but liked it enough that I’ll watch more. It was a bit of a pastiche of a lot of other shows, but it had style.
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> Anyone else recognise Artie from the first episode of Leverage? Though when I saw him in that, I recognised him from Eureka, and of course overall from Frasier. He’s been around a bit - though, oddly, never in the X-Files.
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> That confused me too, but the friend I was watching with said the cart was probably powered by two hands _per person_ on the cart. It’s actually pretty efficient, really - no need for any other fuel.
You missed the 12 volt battery and alligator clips.
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/96 "2009-07-16T05:17:20Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> And apparently you don’t have to aim it. Regardless of how or where you throw it, when it comes back it hits the warehouse wall in pretty much the same spot.
If you draw a line straight out in any direction on the surface of a sphere, it always comes back to the same spot. So aim really isn’t too much of a problem.
The football seems to make exactly one rotation + 10-15 feet. Pretty much any throw in the general direction of the warehouse will end up hitting the front of the warehouse.
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### Author:  [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/97 "2009-07-16T07:49:50Z")
I liked it, much to my surprise (I don’t like much of anything; there’s only 2 other shows besides W13 I bother to DVR). I didn’t see the premier until Tuesday, and watched the second episode Wednesday morning. So far none of the characters irritate me, the premise looks interesting and flexible enough to allow them to do all kinds of different things, and I, too, love all the steampunk stuff. I wish my computer was wood and brass.
I like the football. I’m a sucker for running gags.
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### Author:  [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/98 "2009-07-16T13:14:15Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> The football seems to make exactly one rotation + 10-15 feet. Pretty much any throw in the general direction of the warehouse will end up hitting the front of the warehouse.
Sure, if you threw it in the direction of the warehouse. But I’m pretty sure the one (or two?) times we saw it being thrown it was not in the direction of the warehouse but away from the warehouse.
Not that it matters much, there’s no indication that real-world plausibility is as all within the aims of the show.
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### Author:  [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/99 "2009-07-16T14:17:38Z")
> [@TBG](#):
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> Third. And SciFi didn’t even originate the first one, they just took it over when Showtime didn’t want it anymore.
At least fourth. After the Movie “Stargate”, there were the TV series [Stargate SG:1](http://www.tv.com/stargate-sg-1/show/185/summary.html?q=stargate&tag=search_results;title;4), [Stargate Atlantis](http://www.tv.com/stargate-atlantis/show/11415/summary.html?q=stargate&tag=search_results;title;1) and [Stargate Infinity](http://www.tv.com/stargate-infinity/show/11416/summary.html?q=stargate&tag=search_results;title;3) (an animated series). [Stargate Universe](http://www.tv.com/stargate-universe/show/76070/summary.html?q=stargate&tag=search_results;title;2) will be the fourth spin-off, unless there’s another I don’t know about.
I’m enjoying Warehouse 13, in much the same vein that I enjoy Eureka and liked the Dresden Files. It’s not the awesome sci-fi heroin addiction that was Battlestar, but it’s a fun show, and I’ll keep watching for a while at least. Saul Rubinek is always good.
thwartme
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warehouse-13/502320/100 "2009-07-16T15:50:58Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> Sure, if you threw it in the direction of the warehouse. But I’m pretty sure the one (or two?) times we saw it being thrown it was not in the direction of the warehouse but away from the warehouse.
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> Not that it matters much, there’s no indication that real-world plausibility is as all within the aims of the show.
He throws it away from the warehouse at the end of the pilot. But we don’t see that one come down.
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