# Warlords of Draenor: WoW General Discussion thread 10/13/2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 14, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272 "2014-10-14T05:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/41 "2014-10-16T03:03:00Z")
Edit: Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/42 "2014-10-16T03:08:03Z")
I’ll check that out. I did the Invasion quests. I’m not particularly liking the GIANT GLOWY OUTLINE on the quest objectives and mobs… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/43 "2014-10-16T03:23:02Z")
It WAS unchecked and I have no idea why. I hadn’t even been in there. Anyway, the new models are great. The female trolls BLINK now! No more creepy eternal stare. And the improvement in the male human faces isn’t even quantifiable. They actually don’t look like a cleft-palate convention now. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/44 "2014-10-16T03:58:47Z")
The experience required to level has been reduced. Pre-patch, my Warlock was 87.5 with very little rested bonus, post-patch he was 1 point shy of 88, with full rested bonus. I ran a few randoms and quested my way to 90 in about 3 hours. PVP queue was still broken. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/45 "2014-10-16T11:28:00Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > The experience required to level has been reduced. Pre-patch, my Warlock was 87.5 with very little rested bonus, post-patch he was 1 point shy of 88, with full rested bonus. I ran a few randoms and quested my way to 90 in about 3 hours. PVP queue was still broken. That would explain how my warlock hit 82 on Tuesday. I’d gotten her to 80 on Saturday or Sunday, and to 81 during an extended session on Monday. But I hadn’t thought she was so close to 82 that she’d ding after only the short session she had on Tuesday. But she did. Granted, she’s wearing four heirlooms, but even that wasn’t enough to explain it. ---
**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/46 "2014-10-16T11:39:29Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > …whatever the hell that means. To fix this issue, log completely out of the game and restart. It will cause the latest patch to be applied. I think they’ve applied a patch every day so far since release. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/47 "2014-10-16T11:53:15Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > The experience required to level has been reduced. Pre-patch, my Warlock was 87.5 with very little rested bonus, post-patch he was 1 point shy of 88, with full rested bonus. I ran a few randoms and quested my way to 90 in about 3 hours. PVP queue was still broken. Oh, so _that’s_ what happened to my Pally! I thought it was odd she was suddenly 1 XP shy of 89 last night. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/48 "2014-10-16T12:27:59Z")
I spent most of last night scrambling around trying to either update my add-ons for 6.0.2 or find similar add-ons that have already updated. The worst thing about a new expansion… ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/49 "2014-10-16T12:32:17Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > “Kill x warriors and blow up y siege machines”. Waaaay over there? /shrug Ok. > “Good job, now go peek through a telescope so we can show you a WAY COOL cinematic.” Sure. > “Now kill x scouts.” Um. The ones right here surrounding us? The ones that were surrounding us 15 minutes earlier when you sent me out to kill the warriors and blow up the siege engines? You might have mentioned that at that time. Whatever. > “Now kill x executioners, freeing their captives.” Um. great. Hey, these guys are a bit sparse, and frankly hard to find with all the heavy competition. Yaay for flying around looking for quest NPCs. > > If Blizz’s intent is to recreate the feel of vanilla WoW, they succeeded. They resurrected the worst elements of classic WoW quest design. So bravo for that. Y’know, I was thinking “Hey, this might be kinda interesting… haven’t played since MoP came out, and that only lasted long enough for me to finish the Panda quest line, maybe they’ve fixed the questing thing…” Then I read this. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/50 "2014-10-16T12:38:15Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I spent most of last night scrambling around trying to either update my add-ons for 6.0.2 or find similar add-ons that have already updated. The worst thing about a new expansion… I used it as an opportunity ditch quite a lot of mine. 🙂 Can’t do without my Grid + Clique though, as a healer. I even had to go in and manually change a .lua file because it’s currently broken! ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/51 "2014-10-16T13:28:41Z")
> [@sandra\_nz](#): > > I used it as an opportunity ditch quite a lot of mine. 🙂 > > Can’t do without my Grid + Clique though, as a healer. I even had to go in and manually change a .lua file because it’s currently broken! I don’t know what I’m going to do about add-ons. A lot have been hurry-hurry fixed, but I still think some are subtly broke. And, of course, some are just broke from the get-go, or break as soon as they do anything (protected method errors seem to be very popular). And a lot of add-ons have been co-opted by integrated changes to the game, in classic Blizzard fashion, and in typical Blizzard fashion, done more poorly or awkwardly than the add-on they replaced. I guess I’ll limp along, and maybe do some replacement research. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/52 "2014-10-16T13:31:52Z")
I would encourage you to play around with minimal add ons. Turn everything off, take a look at your UI, turn on just a few, do a dungeon, see how it feels. One addon you should probably keep on is an error-catching one - I use Swatter. ---
**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/53 "2014-10-16T14:37:10Z")
I think they must have changed how and which realms are linked - because suddenly it’s crowded, everywhere I go. Strange things are afoot in the Auction House, as well - it’s very empty of stuff, crafting materials, armor, potions - there’s very few items for sale in general. Seems like the usual amount of pets and recipes, though. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/54 "2014-10-16T16:23:45Z")
> [@Sarabellum1976](#): > > Strange things are afoot in the Auction House, as well - it’s very empty of stuff, crafting materials, armor, potions - there’s very few items for sale in general. Seems like the usual amount of pets and recipes, though. Unless the AH is broken, somehow, I have no idea how that would have happened, especially since the AH is supposed to be uber-linked now (Horde, Alliance & Neutral AH are all-in-one). Maybe there was an immediate run on crafting materials and such when servers went back up on Tuesday night? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/55 "2014-10-16T17:04:55Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Unless the AH is broken, somehow, I have no idea how that would have happened, especially since the AH is supposed to be uber-linked now (Horde, Alliance & Neutral AH are all-in-one). Maybe there was an immediate run on crafting materials and such when servers went back up on Tuesday night? Maybe people became drunk with the power of an entire 98-slot crafting reagent bank tab and went mad trying to fill it? 😃 Especially since crafting mats seem to stack to levels unheard of in previous patches. ETA: I haven’t checked (too busy trying to work out bugs in just playing the game), but has the reagent tab destroyed the utility of materials-specific uber-bags? I have engineering toolboxes and mining bags and leatherworking satchels galore, and they’re almost all empty now. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/56 "2014-10-16T17:15:41Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > ETA: I haven’t checked (too busy trying to work out bugs in just playing the game), but has the reagent tab destroyed the utility of materials-specific uber-bags? I have engineering toolboxes and mining bags and leatherworking satchels galore, and they’re almost all empty now. Because they’re almost all useless now. Just totally unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/57 "2014-10-16T17:43:28Z")
Yeah, and that sucks because not only do most of my toons have such specific bags, but I used to make gold crafting and selling them. \>sigh\< Well, things change. And I do have a heck of a lot more bag and bank space now. I am definitely going to like the new reagent tab in the bank. As for the Auction Houses - I noted that the patch negated all my pending auctions and returned the items to my toons. So that accounts for part of the lack of stuff. I’m also not inclined to start auctions until a few more days go by and there is less patch craziness and assume others feel the same. Call it a transition period, I’m sure we’ll be back to what passes as normal soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/58 "2014-10-16T19:37:37Z")
After two evenings of playing my level 86-88 hunter, the most noticeable combat change (besides losing some abilities like Serpent Sting) is my pet’s survivability. Pre-patch, my pet might die once per play session, if then; now, I’m reviving him frequently, and having to much, much more closely monitor his health and heal him - as in every second or third fight. No changes by me in spec or pet configuration. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/59 "2014-10-16T19:53:23Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I’ll check that out. > > I did the Invasion quests. I’m not particularly liking the GIANT GLOWY OUTLINE on the quest objectives and mobs… Interface \> Display \> Outline Mode \> Disable. This reverts things to sparklies. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272/60 "2014-10-16T20:53:04Z")
> [@Geek\_Mecha](#): > > Interface \> Display \> Outline Mode \> Disable. This reverts things to sparklies. Excellent! Thank you! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warlords-of-draenor-wow-general-discussion-thread-10-13-2014/701272.md?page=4)