# warmgun, what the fuck is your damage? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2001, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415 "2001-10-24T23:11:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/1 "2001-10-24T23:11:31Z")
Are you looking to pick a fight? 'Cause I’d be happy to provide one. But first, I’ll at least ask - why? You posted this [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=94828): > [@](#): > > Interestingly, because of this thread, someone will probably start an ‘ **Otto** is a whiner’ thread in which **Expris** will drop in and tell you how many post you will need before he and his will forget and forgive _if_ you don’t get banned before then. Then you posted this [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=94929): > [@](#): > > ]( **Espix** mod hat on) > Is the PIT! I thought so. > No one gives a rat’s patooty about your apology. Besides, I’d rather keep on not liking you. > One more apology from you, little Mr., and I’m banning your butt. > Get your post count up…Oh damn, I just spilled coffee on my best pink dress _and_ my cowboy boots!!! > (mod hat off) Both of these gives the clue that you are mad at me from what I wrote [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=91257) (which was like 3 weeks ago): > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by **warmgun** _ > > > > In regards to my two Pitt threads: > > > > After trying to resume normal [posting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=91107), I see that the ripples carry far and wide. I made a bad desision. It was a mistake. No excuses. > > I have e-mailed the parties personally involved and offered my apologies (which were graciously accepted) and now I offer a general apology to the boards _en masse_. > > Looking back, I see that , though they might read that way, I meant no disrespect to the mods and the wonderful job they do. I appreciate their hard work and time, and have said as much. > > I hope the members of the SDMB public can accept this sincere apology as well. > > Steve > > Know this - it will take you more than ten times you current post count before people forget. I can only think of one person who ever achieved it, and even he eventually got banned. > > Rotsaruck. You go on a mod bashing kick. You apologize. I point out the obvious - that railing against the (non-existent) SDMB Clique[sup]TM[/sup] makes you look jack-assish and people remember stuff like that. So somehow your little world has warped that into meaning that I not only hate you, but have some kind of vendetta against you? Even after I [helped you find](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=90492) _exactly_ what you needed when you were asking about comic book law? (You even sent me an e-mail thanking me and telling me I rock!) As **EJsGirl** said in that thread, “The fact that you apologized to those involved, and then to the TM, does mean something. Some folks won’t want to let you forget it, but many others will let it fade into the background, provided it doesn’t happen again soon! Go forth and sin no more.” Sounds like you’re the one not letting anyone forget it, when the rest of us (me included) have let it fade into the background. What happened to “going forth and sinning no more?” It’s advice you ought to heed. Oh, and please, please, please point out to me where I have said anything either derogatory or relating to your spate of mod bashing since that post, so that you can somehow justify your drive-by sniping that, frankly, makes no sense to me. The only reason I can think you’re doing this is to point out that maybe I was wrong - we forgot sooner than I predicted? Why is that a reason to provoke me? 😕 As I said, I’d completely forgotten your mod bashing and just looked at you as any other poster - your rocky patch was, as far as I’m concerned, completely forgotten. So why, oh _why_ are you pestering me to not only remind me that you were once an annoying twit, but now prove yourself to be a jerk all over again? 😕 I await with baited breath for a reply… Esprix ---
**Author:** ![tisiphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tisiphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tisiphone)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/2 "2001-10-24T23:42:45Z")
> [@](#): > > I await with baited breath for a reply… Fishing for a response, eh? :d&r: ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/3 "2001-10-24T23:51:10Z")
You know, we don’t need carp like that in the pit… ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/4 "2001-10-24T23:55:25Z")
Well y’all KNOW he’s just a trolling for a response 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/5 "2001-10-24T23:57:01Z")
[sub]ummmm…as in trolling as in fishing I hope y’all understood…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Mole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/6 "2001-10-25T00:07:43Z")
I noticed **warmgun** offered an apology one post after his **Esprix** modhat offering, but I’m not sure if that’s in regards to the act or just for initially misspelling his name. ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/7 "2001-10-25T00:31:14Z")
No, I’m not looking for a fight. But I was irritated with your uppity response to my apology. I’m not an annoying jerk or a twit. I made a bad decision to question the mods in this forum _one time_, I admitted it with no excuses (though there were mitigating circumstances), aplogized privately to all concerned by e-mail (who were all polite and supportive) and apologized to the boards at large. And still I got flak from non-paticipants. Then you came along as if it were up to you to let the rest of the members remember or forget, and insinuated I might be banned. You continue to portray me that way. My first foray into the pit was a mess, I admit that, but I was accused of “trollish” behaviour which is pure balogna. I might have stepped on toes, but certainly not on purpose. I don’t really wish to carry this further, but if you do, please link me to one post that could have gotten me banned. My remark here… [QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Esprix \* \*\*You posted this [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=94828): > [@](#): > > Interestingly, because of this thread, someone will probably start an ‘ **Otto** is a whiner’ thread in which **Expris** will drop in and tell you how many post you will need before he and his will forget and forgive _if_ you don’t get banned before then.\*\* …reflects my feelings (and dealings) about you and your behavior. I don’t think your are a bad person, but you can be a little quick on the draw. > [@](#): > > \*\*Then you posted this [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=94929): > > > [@](#): > > > > ( **Esprix** mod hat on) > > Is the PIT! I thought so. > > No one gives a rat’s patooty about your apology. Besides, I’d rather keep on not liking you. > > One more apology from you, little Mr., and I’m banning your butt. > > Get your post count up…Oh damn, I just spilled coffee on my best pink dress _and_ my cowboy boots!!! > > (mod hat off)\*\* Are you saying you can dish it out, but not take it? Would you have started a pit thread if someone else had posted that? [quote] \*\*Both of these gives the clue that you are mad at me from what I wrote [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=91257) (which was like 3 weeks ago): > [@](#): > > **You go on a mod bashing kick. You apologize. I point out the obvious - that railing against the (non-existent) SDMB Clique[sup]TM[/sup] makes you look jack-assish and people remember stuff like that. So somehow your little world has warped that into meaning that I not only hate you, but have some kind of vendetta against you?**\*\* A mod bashing “kick”? Let’s not make it more than it was. I don’t think you hate me, but I’m not feelin’ the love either. You also pointed out some things that weren’t obvious, like possible banning, etc, which are not up to you. I won’t get into the clique thing, but your comment: " So somehow your little world has warped that into meaning…" is a little demeaning, wouldn’t you say? My “little” world? Somehow yours is grander because you are better at cutting people down than me? Mine is “warped” because my viewpoint is different than yours? It sounds like a flowery way to attack me personally which is not permitted on these boards. > [@](#): > > \*\* I [helped you find](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=90492) _exactly_ what you needed when you were asking about comic book law? (You even sent me an e-mail thanking me and telling me I rock!)\*\* That’s true. But that happened before the pit thread (or at least I read it before the pit thread). Regardless, it was good advice (I bought the book) and I still have thanks for you for recomending it. I apreciate it. > [@](#): > > **The only reason I can think you’re doing this is to point out that maybe I was wrong - we forgot sooner than I predicted? Why is that a reason to provoke me? 😕** Actually, I thought it would take much longer. I don’t feel you were wrong at all about that. It’s just that inciting others to remember is not going to make you my best buddy. Couldn’t you have taken your own advice and e-mailed me? Instead of trying to make yourself look clever at my expense. You get around, you couldn’t have shown a little compassion and helped a pit newbie? > [@](#): > > **As I said, I’d completely forgotten your mod bashing and just looked at you as any other poster - your rocky patch was, as far as I’m concerned, completely forgotten.** If that’s really true, then I owe you an apology. But your remark seemed a _little_ sarcastic ( :rolleyes: .) and did not seem sincere. But I’ll take you at your word. Steven ---
**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/8 "2001-10-25T01:09:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Xploder \* > \*\*[sub]ummmm…as in trolling as in fishing I hope y’all understood…[/sub] \*\* Thats where the term troll came from:) [http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mtroll.html](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mtroll.html) ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/9 "2001-10-25T01:21:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by warmgun \* > \*\*Actually, I thought it would take much longer. I don’t feel you were wrong at all about that. It’s just that inciting others to remember is not going to make you my best buddy. Couldn’t you have taken your own advice and e-mailed me? Instead of trying to make yourself look clever at my expense. You get around, you couldn’t have shown a little compassion and helped a pit newbie? > \*\* **Warmgun** , YOU’RE the one who “incited others to remember” by dredging up past history. YOU interjected your same old grudges into an otherwise civil and blameless thread. YOUR interjection reverts right back to your stale old hobby horse about clicques, frequent posters, etc. controlling who gets banned when YOU’VE had ample personal experience to the contrary. What part of “don’t be a jerk” don’t you understand? If you don’t want fights, don’t pick them. If you want to let bygones be bygones then _let them go_. YOU just debased the worth of your apology. Veb ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/10 "2001-10-25T01:50:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TVeblen \* > \*\*YOU just debased the worth of your apology. > Veb \*\* You know, I expected this. But **TV** , you’re a little confused about my apology. It was for complaining about the mods in open forum rather than e-mailing them directly. I can have disagreements with all the members I want and not de-base that. This kind of says it all: ## quote: (originally posted by **Esprix** ) ## As I said, I’d completely forgotten your mod bashing and just looked at you as any other poster - your rocky patch was, as far as I’m concerned, completely forgotten. This assumes that if I have trouble with an established poster I’ve somehow gotten myself into trouble. The fact that I might have had a problem with **Esprix** _does not_ mean I am having another “rocky patch”, for if it does you’ve just de-based your whole notion of no-cliques. I am free to express myself just as everyone else is. That is not being a jerk. What part of the terminology do _you_ not understand? I don’t need to justify myself to you, but **Esprix** lobbed the first volley. He was the one talking about how people hold grudges. Am I not allowed the same right? I appreciate your input, skewed though it may be, but I’m sure **Esprix** and I can work it out just fine. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/11 "2001-10-25T02:33:17Z")
Rule No. 1: “Don’t be a jerk.” Rule No. 2: “Don’t piss off the moderators.” your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/12 "2001-10-25T02:41:58Z")
You’ve got to be kidding me - he’s banned! lovely ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/13 "2001-10-25T03:05:56Z")
I don’t understand this. Was he banned for his response to **TVeblen**? He does not seem to be disrespecting her, and it isn’t clear that **Veb** is acting as a moderator (ie no official warning, no IMHO moderator in sig). I think **warmgun** thought that she was offering her opinion as a poster and in that light I don’t see what he wrote as out-of-line. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/14 "2001-10-25T03:29:38Z")
I sure hope that wasn’t what got him banned. (Crossing fingers) ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/15 "2001-10-25T03:49:08Z")
**warmgun** said, in reply to **Veb** > [@](#): > > You know, I expected this. But TV, you’re a little confused about my apology. It was for complaining about the mods in open forum rather than e-mailing them directly. **I can have disagreements with all the members I want and not de-base that.** > This kind of says it all: I think that warmgun felt that, if you don’t shit on a mod, you’re home free. Wrong! Veb correctly said, “quit picking fights.” He didn’t/hasn’t and just caught cumulative wrath! ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/16 "2001-10-25T04:30:49Z")
okay, I have to ask - Why was s/he banned? Anyone, anyone?? ---
**Author:** ![darkcool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@darkcool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darkcool)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/17 "2001-10-25T04:53:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by samclem \* > \*\ ***warmgun** said, in reply to **Veb** > > > [@](#): > > > > You know, I expected this. But TV, you’re a little confused about my apology. It was for complaining about the mods in open forum rather than e-mailing them directly. **I can have disagreements with all the members I want and not de-base that.** > > This kind of says it all: > > I think that warmgun felt that, if you don’t shit on a mod, you’re home free. Wrong! > \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by samclem \* > \*\ ***warmgun** said, in reply to **Veb** > > > [@](#): > > > > You know, I expected this. But TV, you’re a little confused about my apology. It was for complaining about the mods in open forum rather than e-mailing them directly. **I can have disagreements with all the members I want and not de-base that.** > > This kind of says it all: > > I think that warmgun felt that, if you don’t shit on a mod, you’re home free. Wrong! > \*\* Not chosing sides, but to be fair, it seems to me that all **warmgun** was saying in regards to the above quote was that disagreeing with a member on a topic didn’t de-base his/her apology regarding mod ‘bashing’. My $.02’s worth. I’m curious myself, was it that post that caused the banishment? ---
**Author:** ![darkcool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@darkcool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darkcool)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/18 "2001-10-25T04:55:25Z")
They used to call me Darkcool Two-tmes… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/19 "2001-10-25T06:52:19Z")
:eek: Holy flirking shnit! (More later.) Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Krispy\_Original](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ec9cab/32.png) [@Krispy\_Original](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krispy_Original)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415/20 "2001-10-25T07:04:26Z")
This is one of those situations where I shouldn’t say what I’m thinking…so I won’t. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warmgun-what-the-fuck-is-your-damage/89415.md?page=2)