# Warning: Avoid Oklahoma toll roads **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 14, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474 "2017-04-14T22:24:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/21 "2017-04-17T20:30:58Z")
> [@Silophant](#): > > Yeah, why don’t they just pave all the roads for free like God intended. Are you aware that the tax on gasoline pays for our roads? The amount per gallon varies by state. The national average is 26.5 cents a gallon. Plus a federal tax of 18.4 cents per gallon. That’s a significant percentage when gas is $2.10 a gallon. Arkansas is below the average. I much rather they raise the tax then create toll roads. > **[Arkansas gas tax below national average, other states look to hike fuel taxes...](https://talkbusiness.net/2016/04/arkansas-gas-tax-below-national-average-other-states-look-to-hike-fuel-taxes-as-pump-prices-fall/)** > > State-level taxes and fees on motor fuels in the U.S. averaged 26.5 cents per gallon as of Jan. 1, 2016, and officials with some states are considering raising or lowering... ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/22 "2017-04-17T21:03:20Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > I spent a week in Tulsa about ten years ago. It was the longest week of my life. Hated it there. Oral Roberts University has a gigantic gold praying hands sculpture. It’s the gaudiest thing I’ve ever seen. > > [World's Largest Praying Hands, Tulsa, Oklahoma](http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11895) > > Then there are the frackquakes. :rolleyes: Tulsa is a good sized city, over 180 square miles. I lived in Tulsa a number of years, and I’m certain there were years that would go by where I never saw (or even thought about) the ORU praying hands. I’m guessing your week spent there was close to that area since you’re using that to exemplify how bad Tulsa is. If you ask residents of Tulsa about ORU and the Praying Hands, I’m sure most of them would say the same thing. There’s a lot more to Tulsa than a sculpture on the grounds of a religious college. > [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > That’s one of the funniest things _I’ve_ ever seen. 😕 Funny? What’s funny about it? ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/23 "2017-04-17T21:12:28Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > Funny? What’s funny about it? Whelp, I officially have a very dirty mind. Especially, with the view of the Oral Roberts Prayer Tower through the hands. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/24 "2017-04-17T21:42:38Z")
Thread relocated to MPSIMS from IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/25 "2017-04-17T22:56:55Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > There’s a lot more to Tulsa than a sculpture on the grounds of a religious college. Yeah, there’s the name, which when spelled backwards becomes A Slut. :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/26 "2017-04-17T23:26:20Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > 😕 > Funny? What’s funny about it? For demented religiosity it would be relegated by the Vatican to the special vault where they deposit scarves knitted by nuns for the Holy Father with Kinkadesque portrayals of Jesus on the Cross; gilt-edged Christmas cards of nude girl angels with that French internet effect of gif magical rain and sparkly glitter sent by foreign presidents; and family photographs sent in for blessing by fat families. Plus it is in awful bad taste. We have nothing against religion in mine own country, but we prefer it kept in churches; and barely ever mentioned in public. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/27 "2017-04-18T13:41:03Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > Whelp, I officially have a very dirty mind. Especially, with the view of the Oral Roberts Prayer Tower through the hands. LOL, I don’t know where a dirty mind comes into it, but when living there you’d occasionally hear of ORU students getting caught either having sex or smoking pot up in the big hands. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/28 "2017-04-18T13:57:39Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > BUT their is no sign saying what that “exact change” was to be. It wouldn’t help if you had no coins, but assuming I have the right toll booth, there appears to be a [large green sign](https://goo.gl/maps/P6vYshpPHwG2) detailing the toll rates for every size of vehicle, and next to the collection basket there is also a [diagram showing the toll rates and a digital readout that calculates your toll for you.](https://goo.gl/maps/WsG22iA3N9M2) ---
**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/29 "2017-04-18T14:36:06Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > (b) Avis or National charge you actual toll plus $4 per day for the whole rental up to $20 **per month** , just triggered automatically if you go through a toll. Yup. I was very happy with National on my recently completed trip. For the short duration there, the cost difference between the transponder and the toll-by-plate was a trifle. The four bucks per day isn’t much more than that state’s own administrative charge of $2.50, and this is included in the four bucks. Lots of people complain about it as a “ripoff” on places like TripAdvisor, though, but it didn’t bother me in the slightest. Much better than Texas’ system as a tourist passing through. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/30 "2017-04-18T14:42:12Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > For demented religiosity it would be relegated by the Vatican to the special vault where they deposit scarves knitted by nuns for the Holy Father with Kinkadesque portrayals of Jesus on the Cross; gilt-edged Christmas cards of nude girl angels with that French internet effect of gif magical rain and sparkly glitter sent by foreign presidents; and family photographs sent in for blessing by fat families. > Plus it is in awful bad taste. > > We have nothing against religion in mine own country, but we prefer it kept in churches; and barely ever mentioned in public. Wow, that’s a lot of words to say that you don’t think it should be displayed out in the open. The hands sculpture is on the campus of faith based university. You can see the sculpture when you drive by one entrance to the campus. It’s not like it’s in the middle of a public thoroughfare. I can tell you this, I’m a lot more offended by the crappy art they put in front of the Fulton County Annex near where I live: [Google Maps](https://goo.gl/maps/39Jq8LicybB2) That thing is a monstrosity. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/31 "2017-04-18T15:30:05Z")
If that’s the red item, I’d have thought it an old anchor. But I don’t object to religious art in public; we used to have a lot more town and other stone crosses all over the place, and very nice they were too. It’s that it’s _kitsch_. I may have to call Mr. James Kunstler of Clusterfuck Nation. ---
**Author:** ![Kzbre5m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f08c70/32.png) [@Kzbre5m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kzbre5m)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/32 "2017-04-18T16:46:49Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > Funny? What’s funny about it? If nothing else, on [google maps there is a car accident](https://www.google.com/maps/place/36%C2%B003'07.4%22N+95%C2%B057'28.3%22W/@36.0518941,-95.9572291,224m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d36.052067!4d-95.9578514) in the main intersection in front of it. On a Sunday! ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/33 "2017-04-18T18:16:05Z")
Tulsa nightlife: filth, gin, a slut. ---
**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/34 "2017-04-18T18:24:30Z")
I think the best thing is just to avoid Oklahoma. ---
**Author:** ![Sario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sario/32/18580_2.png) [@Sario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sario)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474/35 "2017-04-20T02:55:42Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Are you aware that the tax on gasoline pays for our roads? The amount per gallon varies by state. > > The national average is 26.5 cents a gallon. Plus a federal tax of 18.4 cents per gallon. That’s a significant percentage when gas is $2.10 a gallon. > > Arkansas is below the average. I much rather they raise the tax then create toll roads. > [Arkansas gas tax below national average, other states look to hike fuel taxes as pump prices fall - Talk Business & Politics](http://talkbusiness.net/2016/04/arkansas-gas-tax-below-national-average-other-states-look-to-hike-fuel-taxes-as-pump-prices-fall/) There two problems with that. One, every increasing fuel efficiency (plus alternative fuels) mean that the gas tax is bringing in less money every year. Two, our national infrastructure is in really bad shape. Tolls have the benefit of providing funding that naturally stays in proportion with roadway use and wear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-avoid-oklahoma-toll-roads/784474.md?page=1)