# Warning: Football-Like Substance Found!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 8, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617 "2008-09-08T15:03:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/221 "2008-12-08T15:01:21Z")

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You know a team is amazingly poor AND unlucky when \*Tarvaris Jackson \*turns out to be their opponent’s savior.

Will Millen go down as the worst GM of all time? I mean, the '76 (and '77) Bucs were worse on the field, but they were an expansion team.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/222 "2008-12-08T15:53:11Z")

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Millen was no one-year-wonder. He sustained his suckitude for season after season after season with no drop-off. The fact that he’s a household name (most GM’s aren’t) is a testament to his extraordinary crapitude. So yeah, I think he has to be on the short list with the worst in NFL history.

Even as a fan of a division rival, I feel sorry for Detroit fans and would love to see them turn things around. It may take a while to recover from the damage done by Millen, though, and the Lions are still saddled with Ford. Too bad a team can’t fire an owner.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/223 "2008-12-08T16:01:17Z")

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I have not heard how serious it is but Culpepper got hurt with 1 play left in game. We are down to Drew Henson and nobody else against Indy next week. Call your bookie quickly.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/224 "2008-12-08T16:48:38Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Can anybody be rooting for them to win one now? I was worried about them winning 2 and letting Cinci get the first draft choice. Now there is not much to worry about. Cinci is trying to match our suckatude but we set a high bar.

This Bengals fan wants for you to have the first pick, desperately. You pick Stafford, we’ll take Smith or Oher.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/225 "2008-12-08T17:18:03Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> This Bengals fan wants for you to have the first pick, desperately. You pick Stafford, we’ll take Smith or Oher.

What about Tebow and Bradford?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/226 "2008-12-08T17:43:28Z")

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No offensive line ,Qbs fail. We get sacked on half our offensive plays. I really don’t think a QB can succeed without time. With time,nearly any QB can win. We go through 2 or 3 a year. Some do well elsewhere.  
Millan is going back into commentary. I can not wait for him to get a Lions game. His analysis will be fascinating.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/227 "2008-12-08T18:13:00Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Millan is going back into commentary. I can not wait for him to get a Lions game. His analysis will be fascinating.

“He hustled on the college tape we saw, I swear!”  
“In fairness, I only gave that guy $23 million guaranteed- the rest was roster bonuses.”  
“I really feel that our 16-wide base offense would have worked out if those assholes on the competition committee had given our proposed rule changes a fair hearing.”

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/228 "2008-12-08T19:31:15Z")

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Millen giving his expert commentary on an organization or a GM will be great. I can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/229 "2008-12-17T17:30:43Z")

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Bumping to bring this to the attention of Lions fans:

> **[The Official Site of the Detroit Lions](https://www.detroitlions.com/)**
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> Detroit Lions Home: The official source of the latest Lions headlines, news, videos, photos, tickets, rosters, and gameday information.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/230 "2008-12-17T17:54:21Z")

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Precious, but I’m pretty much numb to it all now.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/231 "2008-12-17T20:25:01Z")

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It worked out as well as it can for the Lions. The last 2 games are with teams that have nothing to fight for. The Lions do not want the 0-16 wreath hanging around their necks. The Saints have no reason to play. The LIons whipped the Packers in Green Bay only about 15 years or so ago. The stars are aligned. The Lions could win 2 in a row.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/232 "2008-12-18T00:28:21Z")

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Who wants to be the team that loses to the Lions? They’ll play.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/233 "2008-12-18T18:36:36Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Who wants to be the team that loses to the Lions? They’ll play.

I agree. I think this is the year the Lions finally break on through to the other side.

Besides, can’t the Colts second-teamers take out the Lions?

And that Saints offense is still pretty damn good.

I’m definetely seeing 0-16 for you guys.

And 4-11-1 for the Bengals.

😉 @ **Senorbeef**.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/234 "2008-12-18T19:20:44Z")

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Call your bookie, Saints can not cover Calvin. Piles of Lions touchdowns coming.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/235 "2008-12-19T15:07:43Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Call your bookie, Saints can not cover Calvin. Piles of Lions touchdowns coming.

Is Calvin going to throw it to himself? Block for himself?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/236 "2008-12-19T15:59:32Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Is Calvin going to throw it to himself? Block for himself?

How’s he been getting touchdowns all year long so far?

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/237 "2008-12-19T18:46:37Z")

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If anyone is looking for a gift for a Lions fan, [here’s a strangely appropriate one](http://www.detroitlionsstore.com/product.cfm?store_id=2&product_id=1234). 😉

(and check out his number!)

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/238 "2008-12-19T19:03:56Z")

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Is it 00?

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**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/239 "2008-12-19T23:21:20Z")

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I’m totally getting this shirt next year:

[OWEN](http://fff.fathom.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=2&pictureid=2)

😃

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/240 "2008-12-20T16:03:25Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> How’s he been getting touchdowns all year long so far?

Wasn’t that when they actually had a healthy, quasi-NFL caliber QB at the helm?

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