# Warning: Football-Like Substance Found! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 8, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617 "2008-09-08T15:03:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/161 "2008-10-29T20:09:53Z")
From an [SI](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/10/29/midseason/2.html) article today - a fairly amazing statistic: > [@](#): > > Statistic of the year: Detroit’s pass defense – The Lions pass defense ranks next-to-last in the NFL, allowing 258.7 yards per game. But that’s not the mind-boggling part. Detroit has allowed six of the seven opposing quarterbacks it has faced to set career-high passer ratings against it, with all six of those quarterbacks posting a 117.0 or higher. The list goes from Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers at 117.0 to Atlanta’s Matt Ryan at 137.0. The only exception to the rule was Minnesota’s Gus Frerotte, who had to settle for throwing for 301 yards against Detroit. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/162 "2008-10-29T20:21:24Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > From an [SI](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/10/29/midseason/2.html) article today - a fairly amazing statistic: In fairness, Matt Ryan made his debut against them, so he could have posted a zero and it would have been a season high. _looks again_ 137?!?!? Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/163 "2008-10-29T20:26:05Z")
Kyle Orton has a chance Sunday to set his career record twice this season. (Who would’ve thought I’d be looking forward to starting Orton on my fantasy team?) ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/164 "2008-11-09T21:35:30Z")
Really? I helped my country by electing a new president, give up all my football watching until now for my game to get blacked out? Then when I try to find the game on the radio, they’re crushed in a glorious manner? Sonofabitch. I may have to take up drinking. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/165 "2008-11-09T21:55:07Z")
Lions held the Jags under 40 and still lost. With a defensive effort like that ,they should be proud. The Lions put 14 on the board. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/166 "2008-11-09T22:01:53Z")
Drew Stanton’s stats: 6/8 94 1 0. I think the Lions have their franchise player. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/167 "2008-11-09T22:31:33Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Drew Stanton’s stats: 6/8 94 1 0. > > I think the Lions have their franchise player. Stop it. My sides. They’re split. The laughing. No mas. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/168 "2008-11-09T22:59:40Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Drew Stanton’s stats: 6/8 94 1 0. > > I think the Lions have their franchise player. Er… you can’t really read anything into garbage time stats like that. Not to mention half his yards came on a 50ish yard “throw it up and hope” pass to Calvin Johnson. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/169 "2008-11-09T23:21:53Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Er… you can’t really read anything into garbage time stats like that. Not to mention half his yards came on a 50ish yard “throw it up and hope” pass to Calvin Johnson. C’mon. The guy has a lifetime 75% completion percentage and has never, ever thrown an interception in the NFL. How can you argue with that? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/170 "2008-11-09T23:32:58Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > C’mon. The guy has a lifetime 75% completion percentage and has never, ever thrown an interception in the NFL. How can you argue with that? Neither have I. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/171 "2008-11-10T00:31:25Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Neither have I. 😃 Expect a call. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/172 "2008-11-10T00:46:27Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Expect a call. Alright, but with my track record of ball security I’m holding out for starter money. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/173 "2008-11-10T01:09:12Z")
So, did Herm Edwards seal his fate by going for two and losing or does he deserve respect for having the cods to go for it? I say the former…though I realize the botched extra point earlier might have something to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/174 "2008-11-10T02:16:26Z")
> [@An\_Arky](#): > > So, did Herm Edwards seal his fate by going for two and losing or does he deserve respect for having the cods to go for it? I say the former…though I realize the botched extra point earlier might have something to do with it. Chris Mortensen pointed out on NBC that the Chiefs were missing three defensive starters at kickoff, and lost _five_ more during the game- and thus Herm would have rightly believed that if the Chargers won the toss they’d probably score. I think going for it was absolutely the right decision, even if the play call was half-baked. Over the last eight or so seasons, 2-point conversions are almost exactly a coin flip (fail is leading succeed by 1). ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/175 "2008-11-10T04:43:01Z")
Daunte may help. In the locker room talk he sounded different from the other players. They always talk about how hard they play and practice and how bad they feel…again. He kind of called them out. He talked about effort and losing attitude. They have lost like 16 out of last 17. Some have lost their entire pro careers. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/176 "2008-11-10T05:00:52Z")
Daunte can’t hurt, but I think he wants to stay with a place for a while. I just don’t know if he can get that here in Detroit. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/177 "2008-11-11T17:21:36Z")
He can throw but he looked huge. Listed at 260. I think he could eat 260. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/178 "2008-11-11T17:30:01Z")
He was well know around here (UCF) as a buffet monster. He used to eat in class constantly- I had a 250 student lecture with him freshman year (he was a senior) and you could hear him and his friend munching from across the auditorium. Course, nobody ever said anything to him, even though he wasn’t that popular on campus until he got drafted. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/179 "2008-11-11T17:55:04Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > He can throw but he looked huge. Listed at 260. I think he could eat 260. He’s always been as big as or bigger than the linebackers trying to take him down. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617/180 "2008-11-13T15:30:09Z")
Lions cut Henson yesterday to pick up a kicker. Orlavsky probably needs an operation on his thumb. He refuses to get it ,because he does not want to pass up a chance to play.It is not throwing hand. That leaves us with Culpepper and Stanton. Dante has barely played in the last couple years. Stanton has not shown if he has what it takes to be a pro QB. The most important position on the team is completely unsettled. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-football-like-substance-found/462617.md?page=10)