# Warning for Junior Moderating

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [June 19, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015 "2011-06-19T06:22:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/1 "2011-06-19T06:22:49Z")

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I call out moderator **Spectre of Pithecanthropus** for abuse of authority as a moderator in this thread:

> **[Tijuana is not pronounced 'Tia-Wanna'](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=613012)**
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> A promo for Locked Up Abroad mentions Tijuana. The voiceover guy pronounces it ‘Tia-Wanna’. It grates on my ears.

I was accused and warned for Junior Moderation, when I made no such attempt to do so. I did not warn nor chastise anyone for breaking rules. **Sprectre** himself did not warn me for the violation that had allegedly occured prior to his first post. It was only after his warning for my “shooting it out nineteen to the dozen this evening” and my reply that he came back with an attempt at a breach of rules technicality.

Bullshit. If this board disapproves of honesty and vulgarity, put it in the rule book. Otherwise, this behavior is not befitting a moderator. It smacks of moral superiority and sanctimony.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/2 "2011-06-19T06:33:52Z")

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Uh, well, not sure about junior modding, but you can’t say you weren’t hostile, no? You told someone to fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/3 "2011-06-19T06:38:21Z")

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Ypu went in there loaded for bear.

Even after SOP told everyone to calm down you came back with:

“If you’re going to warn me about skirting posting guidelines, please do so with specific violations. If you want to call me an asshole, feel free.”

Sounds like you got what you wished for.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/4 "2011-06-19T06:39:02Z")

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Yeah, thread closed. I wonder who closed it and why? Wait, no I don’t.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/5 "2011-06-19T06:44:24Z")

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> [@Jake\_Jones](#):
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> Yeah, thread closed. I wonder who closed it and why? Wait, no I don’t.

I closed it because the OP asked for it. It was pretty much hijacked entirely by that point anyway, and no, it wasn’t **Guizot** who did the hijacking.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/6 "2011-06-19T06:47:13Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> Uh, well, not sure about junior modding, but you can’t say you weren’t hostile, no? You told someone to fuck off.

So? Is there a rule pertaining to personal feelings about a topic now? Aren’t we allowed to be emotional about things?

> [@](#):
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> Even after SOP told everyone to calm down you came back with:
> 
> “If you’re going to warn me about skirting posting guidelines, please do so with specific violations. If you want to call me an asshole, feel free.”
> 
> Sounds like you got what you wished for.

Irrelevant. I didn’t subvert posting guidelines and I shouldn’t have been warned for Junior Modding, because I didn’t do that.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/7 "2011-06-19T06:50:17Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> I closed it because the OP asked for it. It was pretty much hijacked entirely by that point anyway, and no, it wasn’t **Guizot** who did the hijacking.

Yeah, because the premise of the thread was idiotic and the moderation was ridiculous. Imagine… Someone calling a turd a turd. It’s almost incomprehensible.

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**Author:** ![Suil\_Dubh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Suil\_Dubh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suil_Dubh)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/8 "2011-06-19T06:58:29Z")

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This is not going to end well.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/9 "2011-06-19T07:00:09Z")

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It’s not up to you to decide what the standard is for creating threads.  
If you don’t like a topic, you’re free not to participate in it or reply.

If you want to give your disagreeing opinion, it’s possible to do it in a non-aggressive manner.  
From the thread:

> [@Tijuana is not pronounced 'Tia-Wanna'](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tijuana-is-not-pronounced-tia-wanna/585997/28):
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> Holy fucking shit, Private Guizot! Did you just simultaneously hijack and shit on this thread? I think you did. Your baggage does not mean shit to me or anyone else, so I strongly suggest you un-fuck yourself before someone else does it for you.

> [@Tijuana is not pronounced 'Tia-Wanna'](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tijuana-is-not-pronounced-tia-wanna/585997/44):
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> Seriously? That was criticism, not moderation. As a moderator, you should realize that I’m critisizing you for shitty moderation and blatant “because I don’t like your tone” tactics.
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> I’m not moderating or suggesting (junior moderating?) you behave any other way. I just think you’re being an asshole. I’m making a critical observation.
> 
> Fuck you if you don’t like it.

You’ve been here for two years, so you should know by now that your post was out of line for IMHO.  
If you have a problem with another poster or feel the need to use insulting posts against someone, then you open a Pit thread.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/10 "2011-06-19T07:03:24Z")

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> [@Jake\_Jones](#):
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> Irrelevant. I didn’t subvert posting guidelines and I shouldn’t have been warned for Junior Modding, because I didn’t do that.

“Threadshit” and “hijack” are very tricky words to mix into an argument without creating the appearance of junior modding, although it can be done. But using them both in the same sentence when already in the middle of a profanity-riddled argument with a mod? Priceless.

They got you cold on this one, kid. They might not have called you on the junior modding without the whole context.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/11 "2011-06-19T07:19:49Z")

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If the objection is vulgarity, outlaw vulgarity. If we’re not allowed to be bitchy when another member posts inane things that rub us the wrong way, why bother? Seriously, what’s the point?

Politely disagree? Fuck that. I do that in real life.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/12 "2011-06-19T07:21:38Z")

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> [@Jake\_Jones](#):
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> Yeah, because the premise of the thread was idiotic and the moderation was ridiculous. Imagine… Someone calling a turd a turd. It’s almost incomprehensible.

Man, I can’t imagine getting as worked up as you did over something I found idiotic and pretty much irrelevant. That’s incomprehensible to me.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/13 "2011-06-19T07:24:15Z")

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> [@Jake\_Jones](#):
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> If the objection is vulgarity, outlaw vulgarity. If we’re not allowed to be bitchy when another member posts inane things that rub us the wrong way, why bother? Seriously, what’s the point?
> 
> Politely disagree? Fuck that. I do that in real life.

There is the Pit. That’s probably where I’d go to be bitchy if I felt the need. That way I could be a world class bitcher and be happy again proving whatever it was I was trying to prove.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/14 "2011-06-19T07:47:09Z")

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Bunch of apologists in here. Drop the incidentals. Consider the charge.

Junior Moderating

Yes or no?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/15 "2011-06-19T07:55:13Z")

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You really like ordering people around, don’t you?

Yes, you were junior modding. You’re _still_ junior modding.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/16 "2011-06-19T08:02:51Z")

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I’ve always pronounced it _Tee-hwana_ myself. Don’t even get me started on Juarez.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/17 "2011-06-19T08:03:41Z")

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> [@Jake\_Jones](#):
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> Bunch of apologists in here. Drop the incidentals. Consider the charge.
> 
> Junior Moderating
> 
> Yes or no?

Honestly, to me the charge is the incidental. An order to dial it back had already been given and it wasn’t working. At that point, pick your charge, doesn’t matter, you weren’t toning it down. Worrying about if the specific warning was technically correct is just semantics and can’t possibly serve you well no matter what answers people give you.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/18 "2011-06-19T08:06:58Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’ve always pronounced it _Tee-hwana_ myself. Don’t even get me started on Juarez.

Is it hwares?

Er, I mean, not _Warez_?

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/19 "2011-06-19T08:08:44Z")

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Fine. Then warn me for being a dick. I admit that I’m not in a good mood and that I might be acting like a dick. I was not trying to be a junior mod, and I think the accusation is more offensive than being called a dick.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-for-junior-moderating/586015/20 "2011-06-19T08:10:41Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Robin Fletcher: The fighting, for now, is over. But, for the people of Nicauragua, that is small consideraton. This is Robin Fletcher for NBC News, reporting from Managua, Nicaragua.
> 
> [TV is turned off, zoom out to reveal NBC News employees watching with interest]
> 
> Kathy: What do you think?
> 
> Dan: Well, it’s a nice report.. but is this the week to cover.. [thick-accented] ..Neek-o-rah-gwa?
> 
> Kathy: Well.. I think Neek-o-rah-gwa is important. But not just Neek-o-rah-gwa but, also.. Han-der-us! And, especially.. El Salv-uh-door!
> 
> Executive #1: But wasn’t the big story the defeat of Hor-tay-ga! And.. the fall of the san-duh-nees-tahs!
> 
> Executive #2: Excuse me, everybody, I’d like you to meet our new Economics correspondent.. Han-toe-nee-o Man-dos-ah!

> **[NBC News Employees - SNL Transcripts Tonight](https://snltranscripts.jt.org/90/90enews.phtml)**
>
> NBC News Employees

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