# warnings - eventual expiry?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [July 16, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361 "2017-07-16T01:15:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/61 "2017-07-20T12:43:31Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Not to mention, any violation of rule breaking usually has data about it existing somewhere. If you get a traffic ticket or break the law, there is going to be SOME paperwork about it SOMEWHERE, no matter how mild the cause.

Except I don’t pin a 5 year old traffic ticket up on my fridge, which is what having it in your user CP is like.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/62 "2017-07-20T14:24:21Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Except I don’t pin a 5 year old traffic ticket up on my fridge, which is what having it in your user CP is like.

How often do people look at their User CP? I can count the number of times I’ve done so on one thumb.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/63 "2017-07-20T14:32:03Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Except I don’t pin a 5 year old traffic ticket up on my fridge, which is what having it in your user CP is like.

Maybe you don’t, but I want it known that I don’t yield for _nobody_.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/64 "2017-07-20T14:32:58Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> How often do people look at their User CP? I can count the number of times I’ve done so on one thumb.

How else do you keep track of your subscribed threads? If you’re using search, that’s way more intensive for the boards. I use user CP at least 20 times a day.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/65 "2017-07-20T14:36:00Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Except I don’t pin a 5 year old traffic ticket up on my fridge, which is what having it in your user CP is like.

> [@Bone](#):
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> See post #36. A user can make it so they don’t see the warnings in their CP.

^^

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/66 "2017-07-20T14:37:54Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> How often do people look at their User CP? I can count the number of times I’ve done so on one thumb.

Very frequently. It shows all my subscribed threads. It’s the easiest way to keep track of all the discussions I’m involved in.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/67 "2017-07-20T15:16:13Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> How often do people look at their User CP? I can count the number of times I’ve done so on one thumb.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Very frequently. It shows all my subscribed threads. It’s the easiest way to keep track of all the discussions I’m involved in.

Me too. That’s the page I have bookmarked \*as \*the 'Dope. Precisely so I can see what’s happened since last time in every thread I’ve commented on.

After reading all those updated threads and perhaps commenting again in some, then I’ll go to the forum list page and open each of my favorite forums in turn to look for interesting new threads.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/68 "2017-07-20T15:22:25Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Except I don’t pin a 5 year old traffic ticket up on my fridge, which is what having it in your user CP is like.

My Straight Dope bookmark is also my User CP.

As Elton says, “Leaffan wears his war sounds like a crown.”

(Actually I only have two, from years back.)

Sent from my XT1635-02 using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/69 "2017-07-20T15:23:59Z")

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I don’t use subscribed threads, so I never go there.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/70 "2017-07-20T15:25:49Z")

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Why not? Much easier to follow conversations if you subscribe.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/71 "2017-07-20T15:37:05Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Why not? Much easier to follow conversations if you subscribe.

I find it easy to follow conversations without it, never pursued the option.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/72 "2017-07-20T16:06:42Z")

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If subscribed threads are your primary way of reading the Dope, then how do you find new threads to subscribe to?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/73 "2017-07-20T16:33:26Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> If subscribed threads are your primary way of reading the Dope, then how do you find new threads to subscribe to?

As a user, it’s what I do too- I use New Posts but mostly use the User CP to check in on my subscribed threads throughout the day. As a mod I open my forums specifically, but to find threads of personal interest I hit New Posts periodically, but then use the User CP dozens of times a day. However, I don’t think the warning tab pops up when you click on User CP- you have to specifically click on the Infractions tab- right? So it’s more like having the ticket in a drawer you have to go looking for, than pinned to your fridge.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/74 "2017-07-20T16:41:00Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> If subscribed threads are your primary way of reading the Dope, then how do you find new threads to subscribe to?

Can you really not think about how that might work, or is there something to be gained here by feigning confusion?

> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> As a user, it’s what I do too- I use New Posts but mostly use the User CP to check in on my subscribed threads throughout the day. As a mod I open my forums specifically, but to find threads of personal interest I hit New Posts periodically, but then use the User CP dozens of times a day. However, I don’t think the warning tab pops up when you click on User CP- you have to specifically click on the Infractions tab- right? So it’s more like having the ticket in a drawer you have to go looking for, than pinned to your fridge.

The warning tab is at the bottom of the user CP page. You can shrink it so that the actual warnings are hidden, but you still get a big “latest fractions received” blue bar across the bottom.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/75 "2017-07-20T16:53:34Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> If subscribed threads are your primary way of reading the Dope, then how do you find new threads to subscribe to?

User CP to see if there are updates on any threads you care about. Then New Posts to see what is popping at the moment. Then back to User CP to see if anyone has replied to your stunning witticisms or trenchant analyses. By the time you’re done collecting your kudos, at least two minutes have passed and you can New Posts again. Rinse. Repeat until something better comes along.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/76 "2017-07-20T16:53:57Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> The warning tab is at the bottom of the user CP page. You can shrink it so that the actual warnings are hidden, but you still get a big “latest fractions received” blue bar across the bottom.

Thanks for clarifying.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/77 "2017-07-20T18:18:10Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> The warning tab is at the bottom of the user CP page. You can shrink it so that the actual warnings are hidden, but you still get a big “latest fractions received” blue bar across the bottom.

Is the annoyance at the appearance of the blue bar sans any visible warnings?

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/78 "2017-07-21T00:08:06Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Is the annoyance at the appearance of the blue bar sans any visible warnings?

I really dont get why it’s so hard for the mods to say “If you’ve got a warning that’s more than (say) three years old, and if you don’t have any similar warnings since then, message us and we’ll take it off the notification system at the bottom”

I don’t think anyone with an old warning cares that somewhere out there is a thread noting they were warned years ago; what they care about is being reminded of the fact they got told off for something years ago and they’re still getting told off about it every time they log in or check for new posts.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/79 "2017-07-21T02:27:22Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I really dont get why it’s so hard for the mods to say “If you’ve got a warning that’s more than (say) three years old, and if you don’t have any similar warnings since then, message us and we’ll take it off the notification system at the bottom”

I don’t think it’s possible to do that. We can _reverse_ warnings, but the original infraction message still remains, along with the reversal message. So if your problem is that you are reminded that you committed an infraction, you still would be. In fact, you would have two messages reminding you of it instead of one.

It is possible to set a expiry date for warnings, but presently all the standard warning categories (being a jerk, insults, hate speech, trolling, etc) are set to never expire. I don’t see where it is possible to change that for an individual warning, and even so I don’t know if expiration would cause the warning to disappear entirely or just show as expired.

In short, changing the system as far as I can see would require a major overhaul. To the best of my knowledge, we can’t just delete individual warnings so you won’t see them.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-eventual-expiry/791361/80 "2017-07-21T02:59:36Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I don’t think it’s possible to do that. We can _reverse_ warnings, but the original infraction message still remains, along with the reversal message. So if your problem is that you are reminded that you committed an infraction, you still would be. In fact, you would have two messages reminding you of it instead of one.
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> It is possible to set a expiry date for warnings, but presently all the standard warning categories (being a jerk, insults, hate speech, trolling, etc) are set to never expire. I don’t see where it is possible to change that for an individual warning, and even so I don’t know if expiration would cause the warning to disappear entirely or just show as expired.
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> In short, changing the system as far as I can see would require a major overhaul. To the best of my knowledge, we can’t just delete individual warnings so you won’t see them.

So, just set the expiry date for warnings for 3 years, instead of never. You dont have to do it for individual warnings, just all warnings.

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