# Warnings in Politics & Elections **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 5, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717 "2021-01-05T16:09:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/41 "2021-01-06T13:52:06Z")
I don’t really understand why there was a second warning either. I think the first one was warranted – that kind of over-the-top strawman post is difficult to respond to outside the Pit. But, the second one? I don’t really get it. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/42 "2021-01-06T18:20:53Z")
Well, apparently the warnings didn’t help, since he’s still in that thread posting strawman arguments and demolishing them. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/43 "2021-01-06T18:21:56Z")
For example: > [@Georgia senate runoff elections. Let’s debate and make predictions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-let-s-debate-and-make-predictions/925015/538): > > No I haven’t heard anything. It must be something really bad to the most openly racist campaign **EVER**. But that would explain her loss. Did she use the n-word? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/44 "2021-01-06T18:27:35Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > The poster was apparently under the mistaken impression that a reply to a warning would be visible only to the mod issuing the warning. > > I’d take that claim at face value, and call it a good-faith error. If indeed, that was true on the old board, I’d say yes. But it wasnt. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/45 "2021-01-06T19:55:23Z")
That’s a quote from another commenter. No strawman. Yes, it does sound so ridiculous it seems like a strawman, ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/46 "2021-01-06T20:02:37Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > That’s a quote from another commenter. This is false. Another poster called her campaign “one of the most openly racist campaigns I’ve ever seen.” You changed that to “the most openly racist campaign **EVER**.” The most charitable reading isn’t one I’m willing to grant, and it’s that you’re really, really bad at paraphrasing people. Less charitably, you rephrase what people say in order to make what they say be obviously false, then falsely call it a quote, and make fun of it, because that’s a much easier way to argue. Straight up that shit is warning-worthy. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/47 "2021-01-06T20:22:19Z")
Here’s what was said: " one of the most openly racist campaigns I’ve ever seen" So I left off the word “seen”. That’s still quite an accusation. I would like to know what I missed. Loeffler must have done something quite racist. It was “ **openly** ” racist so that means it was not even subtle. No dog whistles but straight up out in the open racism. Did Loeffler use the N-word? Did she wear a Klan hood? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/48 "2021-01-06T20:26:38Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > That’s a quote from another commenter. No strawman. Yes, it does sound so ridiculous it seems like a strawman This is a false statement. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/49 "2021-01-06T20:27:54Z")
What about the words “I’ve”? Or is it your opinion that the other poster is an immortal ancient who has seen every election in history? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/50 "2021-01-06T20:31:04Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > I would like to know what I missed. You also left off “one of” and added “ever.” Those three changes changed it from a statement about a personal experience with campaigns and placing her campaign in a racist context, to an absolutist claim that would be absurd (given, say, Strom Thurmond, Lee Atwater, Ben Tillman, or Andrew Jackson. If that’s seriously the best you can do with paraphrasing, you should have a blanket ban (self-imposed or otherwise) on paraphrasing anyone on these boards. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/51 "2021-01-06T20:42:20Z")
Nobody has said what was “openly” racist. Why? Because there was nothing “openly” racist or racist at all coming from Loeffler. That claim is false. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/52 "2021-01-06T20:43:40Z")
I retract my earlier defense. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/53 "2021-01-06T20:44:29Z")
You’re trying to argue a different issue now, and one that doesn’t belong in this thread. Even when you’re being called on misrepresenting things, you continue to misrepresent them. Whether her campaign was openly racist is an appropriate matter for discussion in P&E. You didn’t do that. You changed what someone had said in order to make it obviously false and then mocked the changed claim, acting as though it was theirs. That’s what’s being discussed here. Given your insistence at the continued prevarication, I hope you’re banned. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/54 "2021-01-06T20:47:48Z")
Not only insistence, but ignoring the correct information and shifting the topic away from it when corrected. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/55 "2021-01-06T20:50:41Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I hope you’re banned Yes I know that: NY Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet :“ **The left, as a rule, does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement.** ” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/56 "2021-01-06T20:58:06Z")
Quotes about “thoughtful disagreement” have no relevance in this situation. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/57 "2021-01-06T21:06:13Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I hope you’re banned This is ATMB, not the Pit. Dial it back, please. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/58 "2021-01-06T21:07:20Z")
Okay. I didn’t realize that expressing desires about moderation decisions was ever verboten in ATMB, but if it is, I can certainly abstain. (Although aren’t such comments–advocating moderation decisions–verboten in the Pit?) ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/59 "2021-01-06T21:09:57Z")
Pitting moderators and moderator actions is forbidden. I don’t think wishing that someone would be banned is prohibited in the Pit but I’ll defer to the actual Pit mod for that one. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/60 "2021-01-06T21:10:30Z")
But you are saying that calling for this specific moderator action is forbidden in ATMB? Not trying to argue, just want to be clear; this isn’t a rule I’ve heard of before. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717.md?page=4)