# Warnings in Politics & Elections **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 5, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717 "2021-01-05T16:09:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/61 "2021-01-06T21:18:53Z")
Consider these two statements (hypothetical): “…candidate running one of the most openly racist campaigns I’ve ever seen”…in the last 100 years “…candidate running one of the most openly racist campaigns I’ve ever seen”…in the last 1 month Both of those statements would be false with regard to Loeffler. Nothing racist Nothing openly racist But if you want to say or think that then more power to you but I don’t demand that someone protect me from hearing ridiculous things like that. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/62 "2021-01-06T21:19:57Z")
“I hope you’re banned” is basically a personal attack, which is forbidden in all forums except the Pit. It’s not a new rule. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/63 "2021-01-06T21:21:04Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > “I hope you’re banned” is basically a personal attack, which is forbidden in all forums except the Pit. I certainly don’t see it that way, but if you do, I can live with that. I intend to express that I hope such behavior as **agzem** demonstrates–in this thread, no less–is determined to be unacceptable on this board. Is that better? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/64 "2021-01-06T21:21:42Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Consider these two statements (hypothetical): No thank you. These have nothing to do with the behavior that I’m discussing. If you’d like to discuss these hypotheticals in another thread, I might join you there. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/65 "2021-01-06T21:23:04Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I intend to express that I hope such behavior as **agzem** demonstrates–in this thread, no less–is determined to be unacceptable on this board. Is that better? Yep, that’s fine. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/66 "2021-01-06T21:25:27Z")
Okay, thanks, and my apologies for the way I expressed it earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/67 "2021-01-06T21:25:43Z")
I hope such behavior as **agzem** demonstrates–in this thread, no less–is determined to be unacceptable on this board. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/68 "2021-01-06T21:26:58Z")
Thirded. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/69 "2021-01-06T21:42:12Z")
A quote is when you use the words of someone else. For example: **agzem** said, “Yes, it does sound so ridiculous it seems like a strawman.” What you did was a paraphrase, and a poor one at that. It would be like me saying, “ **agzem** said the poster’s comment was the most ridiculous comment in the history of the universe.” I would never paraphrase you like that, because it doesn’t fairly represent what you said. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/70 "2021-01-06T22:53:58Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > NY Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet :“ **The left, as a rule, does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement.** ” That bothers me too, and I tried bringing up that rule in the last meeting. Immediately shot down for some reason. Frustrating man… ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/71 "2021-01-06T22:56:08Z")
I thought it was Ok for a Moderators actions outside “official, Mod hat on”? ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717/72 "2021-01-06T23:31:44Z")
The full quote is even worse but I give Baquet kudos for self-awareness: “ **We** don’t want to hear anything — **we’ve** long said this about this about the Right — but I think the Left, **we** don’t — **I’m not ‘we’,** I’m a journalist — but the Left as a rule does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement.” Unfortunately the NYT did this and proved that they don’t want to hear thoughtful disagreement: > **[New York Times eliminates its public editor](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/31/new-york-times-public-editor-239000)** > > Liz Spayd, under fire for critical columns, is quitting early as the paper plans to cut her position. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warnings-in-politics-elections/929717.md?page=3)