# Warren Jeffs arrested near Vegas
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [August 29, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668 "2006-08-29T14:38:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/1 "2006-08-29T14:38:05Z")
[Leader of off-shoot Mormon sect arrested at traffic stop](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14569632/)
It’s about damned time.
Now, I have NO BEEF with polygamy per se. People who have open relationships, or whatever, as long as it’s all consensual and up front, I don’t care. Nor is this a slam at most Mormons, who belong to the LDS, as opposed to one of the off-shoot cults, like this guy.
Marrying underage girls, kicking teenage boys out when they hit puberty (so there’s less competition), possible child abuse, etc.
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### Author:  [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2006, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/2 "2006-08-29T15:19:59Z")
I’m so glad this motherfucker is in jail. I HOPE HOPE HOPE they extradict him to Utah to face his charges there. Having lived in Utah from 1994-2005, I can tell you that the Beehive State has a hard-on for Jeffs that will only be satisfied by a long, long prison sentence.
:mad:
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### Author:  [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/3 "2006-08-29T15:33:03Z")
Throw away the key, shouldn’t see light of day, etc. Yay.
I almost hope the guy turns out to have killed someone so they can cook him.
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### Author:  [@JimSox5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimSox5)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/4 "2006-08-30T16:52:23Z")
I have to say, I’m shocked this isn’t getting more attention. I saw about a five minute blurb on CNN before they went back to Katrina stuff, and this is the only thread I found about Jeffs capture on the board. I figured there would be a fair amount of fanfare about this, at least on here.
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### Author:  [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/5 "2006-08-30T17:07:17Z")
I dunno – it’s like polygamy is suddenly getting a special pass from the media. I mean, there’s a sitcom about a bigamist, ferchrissake! What’s next, Jim Belushi as a happy-go-lucky white slaver? C’mon, folks, bigamy is just wrong – it goes against the laws of nature. And yes, I asked Mother Nature. This is not what she intended. She’s still pissed off about margarine.
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### Author:  [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/6 "2006-08-30T17:11:15Z")
> [@Sunrazor](#):
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> I dunno – it’s like polygamy is suddenly getting a special pass from the media. I mean, there’s a sitcom about a bigamist, ferchrissake! What’s next, Jim Belushi as a happy-go-lucky white slaver? C’mon, folks, bigamy is just wrong – it goes against the laws of nature. And yes, I asked Mother Nature. This is not what she intended. She’s still pissed off about margarine.
The polygamy itself might not be that sensational, but you’d think the media would latch onto Jeff’s practice of marrying off 15 year old girls to 45 year old men who already have three other young wives. After all, many of the girls in question are blonde and all are white. You’d think the JonBenet Effect[sup]TM[/sup] would dictate that this story get\* more \* publicity than it deserves, not less.
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### Author:  [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/7 "2006-08-30T17:25:32Z")
I’m glad that Jeffs is getting put away, but I have to say it seems unlikely to change much in the way the sect is run. I’d guess that one of Jeff’s brothers or sons will step in and maintain the status quo.
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### Author:  [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/8 "2006-08-30T17:25:57Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#):
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> After all, many of the girls in question are blonde and all are white.
Yeah, but they all wear frumpy home-made dresses.
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### Author:  [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/9 "2006-08-30T17:31:34Z")
> [@friedo](#):
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> Yeah, but they all wear frumpy home-made dresses.
Man, when I lived in Utah (1994-2005), you’d see polygamist families at the amusement park or the Costco from time to time. It was so sad:
- One man in his late forties or early fifties.
- Three women: one age 40, one 30, one 20.
- Approximately twelve kids, age infant - 20.
All the boys would be in cheap, but fairly new and clean khakis and polo shirts, and all the girls and women would be in homemade pioneer dresses. The dresses were always of some dark, drab fabric, unflattering cut, and invariably covered every inch of skin to the ankles, wrists and collarbones. It used to make me so fucking angry: how can you subjugate and abuse women more than by marrying them off as unwilling teenagers? Well, how about making them dress like freaks while the men get to look relatively normal.
Pardon me while I go punch a wall. :mad:
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### Author:  [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/10 "2006-08-30T18:53:23Z")
You are on the FBIs ten most wanted list and you are driving around in a car without visible registration? Maybe that community is a little too inbred.
(Hope they throw away the key.)
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/11 "2006-08-30T19:48:40Z")
Does this mean that in prison he’ll be just one of several wives?
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### Author:  [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/12 "2006-08-30T20:35:03Z")
> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Does this mean that in prison he’ll be just one of several wives?
No, it means that he’ll be the single recipient of many cocks in the ass. Probably on some kind of rotating schedule…Tyrone on Mondays and Thursdays, Bull on Tuesdays and Sundays, Frank on Wednesdays and Fridays, and Jeffs gets Saturday to apply ice and Neosporin and get ready for the next week.
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### Author:  [@Jean\_Poutine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jean_Poutine)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/13 "2006-08-30T21:47:18Z")
Why the HELL doesn’t someone step in and do something about these sects? Didn’t the US state part of the reason for the whole Middle East invasion thing was for freedom and democracy and so women over there wouldn’t be second class citizens, and right here in the US of A these young girls are being treated pretty much the same damn way?
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/14 "2006-08-30T22:30:01Z")
> [@Jean Poutine](#):
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> Why the HELL doesn’t someone step in and do something about these sects?
Read the book _Under the Banner of Heaven_ by Jon Krakauer. A number of years ago, some Utah authorities (don’t remember if this was led by a governor or a D.A. or something else) made a huge stink and arrested a bunch of people and cracked down on these extreme factions. The wise people of Utah then voted out those authorites, by a fairly wide margin, at the first opportunity. The obvious conclusions from this would be rather uncharitable, but the book makes it clear that the situation is a hell of a lot more complicated than it might appear. Nevertheless, it’s a good question.
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### Author:  [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/15 "2006-08-30T23:18:37Z")
> [@Jean Poutine](#):
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> Why the HELL doesn’t someone step in and do something about these sects? Didn’t the US state part of the reason for the whole Middle East invasion thing was for freedom and democracy and so women over there wouldn’t be second class citizens, and right here in the US of A these young girls are being treated pretty much the same damn way?
A complicating factor is the sects vary a lot. Some of them are really fucked in the head, like FLDS, and some of them are more like the mainstream LDS, but with polygamy, and they don’t abuse young girls. And then there are still other polygamists who aren’t part of any organized group. In general the attitude in Utah seems to be to leave people alone unless there’s evidence of abuse going on.
As for the FLDS, it’s pretty hard to get an indictment when all the witnesses are brainwashed by a cult leader, and the cult just happens to control all the local law enforcement in the town that they own.
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### Author:  [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/16 "2006-08-31T00:13:15Z")
> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Read the book _Under the Banner of Heaven_ by Jon Krakauer. A number of years ago, some Utah authorities (don’t remember if this was led by a governor or a D.A. or something else) made a huge stink and arrested a bunch of people and cracked down on these extreme factions. The wise people of Utah then voted out those authorites, by a fairly wide margin, at the first opportunity. The obvious conclusions from this would be rather uncharitable, but the book makes it clear that the situation is a hell of a lot more complicated than it might appear. Nevertheless, it’s a good question.
Am I remembering this correctly, that since the cops are also FLDS members, going into town was also just flat out dangerous, and they risked a Waco-like siege if they tried to take Jeffs there?
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### Author:  [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2006, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/17 "2006-08-31T10:49:06Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#):
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> No, it means that he’ll be the single recipient of many cocks in the ass. Probably on some kind of rotating schedule…Tyrone on Mondays and Thursdays, Bull on Tuesdays and Sundays, Frank on Wednesdays and Fridays, and Jeffs gets Saturday to apply ice and Neosporin and get ready for the next week.
I believe the technical term in a prison setting is “bitch,” as in, “He gonna’ be MAH bitch nah!” Although this may require the coining of a new word: polygabitch, meaning the bitch of several women. Say it with me, won’t you? Polygabitch!
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### Author:  [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2006, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/18 "2006-08-31T10:50:08Z")
:smack: Make that the bitch of several MEN, not women (you dipshit!)
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### Author:  [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/19 "2006-08-31T17:37:57Z")
> [@DeadlyAccurate](#):
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> Am I remembering this correctly, that since the cops are also FLDS members, going into town was also just flat out dangerous, and they risked a Waco-like siege if they tried to take Jeffs there?
The cops, the judges, probably 95% of the town [Colorado City , AZ](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_city%2C_az) is FLDS. It was established by them as Short Creek back in the 1920s. But, I don’t know if they would try to stage a Waco thing. They haven’t done that since the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
The town actually straddles the Arizona/Utah border.
I assume the reason that there isn’t some huge crackdown on the practice of polygamy is that the men in that town (if I understand this correctly) are married only to one wife. The rest, as far as the government is concerned, are single moms with kids. In the FLDS, they’re considered married, though. The charges they seem to want to stick to [Jeffs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs) concern statutory rape.
The town (according to the aforementioned _Under the Banner of Heaven_) gets about $8.00 from the government for every $1.00 they pay in taxes due to these leeches. They call it “bleeding the beast” and find it easy to justify.
I don’t know why this isn’t a HUGE story. When is the media going to realize that TONS of girls as young as 13 are being forced into marriages with older men? Polygamy? Fine by me. But not if this is how it’s going to be implemented.
What could be stopping the MSM from covering that story? These people live in places like Colorado City because they don’t want to be exposed to the light of day. That’s reason enough to have crews on the ground ALL THE TIME.
In UTBOH, Karakauer suggests that as many as 100,000 people are members of this church.
That’s not sexy enough for the MSM? That’s not newsworthy. . .that in the United States girls are being forced to marry men? That a whole town is completely bilking the American taxpayer?
Good, they got Jeffs. Until the extent of this shit is exposed, there’s just going to be another guy to step right into his place.
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### Author:  [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warren-jeffs-arrested-near-vegas/370668/20 "2006-08-31T18:18:29Z")
Polygamy is fine as far as I’m concerned. The marrying off of children (which is their parents’ fault moreso than Jeffs’) is bad, welfare bilking is bad, the fashion sense in this town is _horrendous_. It’s _all bad_. But I have no idea how this guy made the FBI’s Top Ten list. What did he do that was so horrible that he’s the Big Ol’ Bad Guy Who Has To Be Taken Down? I mean, aren’t there lots worse guys we an all think of off the top of our heads? He didn’t kill anyone. He didn’t make anyone more miserable than any other shitty husband/father. He’s a tax evader. So are lots of people.
He’s creepy alright, but the FBI’s TOP TEN?
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