# Was anyone other than O.J. seriously considered a suspect in the Nicole and Ron murders? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 12, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591 "2014-06-12T02:11:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/1 "2014-06-12T02:11:06Z")
Tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman’s deaths. Not that I think O.J. didn’t do it. But did his defense team ever put forth any alternative theories about who might have killed them or why? Were any other suspects seriously considered, even early on? ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/2 "2014-06-12T02:25:10Z")
I do not recall any officially named suspects, but there were a couple of theories brought up, like drug dealers who wanted their money and killed the two because of lack of payment. Or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/3 "2014-06-12T02:28:43Z")
One theory was OJs son did it, but I have no idea how serious that was. ---
**Author:** ![Victor\_Charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ea924/32.png) [@Victor\_Charlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Victor_Charlie)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/4 "2014-06-12T02:33:27Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > One theory was OJs son did it, but I have no idea how serious that was. I remember at least one book was written claiming to prove this theory. Not only did I not read it but I’m not even motivated enough to Google the title. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/5 "2014-06-12T03:00:19Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > One theory was OJs son did it, but I have no idea how serious that was. > [@Victor\_Charlie](#): > > I remember at least one book was written claiming to prove this theory. Not only did I not read it but I’m not even motivated enough to Google the title. O.J.'s son wasn’t considered a suspect at the time of the murders. The book, “O.J. Is Innocent and I Can Prove It,” was published in 2012. > **[After 20 Years Of Research, P.I. Claims O.J. Simpson's Son Killed Nicole Brown](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oj-simpson-book-jason-simpson-william-dear_n_1397583)** > > After 20 Years Of Research, P.I. Claims O.J. Simpson's Son Killed Nicole Brown ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/6 "2014-06-12T03:04:08Z")
Here is a serial killer who supposedly did it: > **[Explosive new documentary claims serial killer murdered Nicole Brown Simpson...](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2235075/O-J-Simpson-case-Explosive-new-documentary-claims-serial-killer-Glen-Rogers-blame-double-murder-Nicole-Brown-Simpson-friend-1994.html)** > > Glen Rogers was convicted of killing two women in 1995, and the latest theory is that his killing spree began months before with Brown-Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/7 "2014-06-12T05:34:15Z")
I personally entertained two mutually exclusive theories of whodunnit: (1) Fuhrman, or someone acting in conspiracy with him. (2) OJ, for whatever reason, just mentally snapped, and did it, and _didn’t know that he had done it._ I imagined that this, possibly, could have explained some of his bizarre behaviors in the days just after the murder. ETA: There were hints dropped at the trial that somebody else, other than OJ might have been involved (like, for example, the mention that there might have been two different shoe prints in the blood at the scene), but nothing ever came of that, and obviously nobody took it seriously enough to follow up on those suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![Suicide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Suicide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suicide)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/8 "2014-06-12T05:44:30Z")
what we’ll never know, unless OJ comes clean, is the timeline of death: 1-was OJ merely arguing with Nicole when Ron Goldman showed up, and then OJ killed both 2-was OJ in the act of killing Nicole when Ron showed up, he interfered, OJ killed both 3-was Nicole already dead, Ron showed up, OJ had to silence him and killed him which scenario do you think happened? I personally think Ron showed up after the Nicole murder, saw OJ standing over her body with a knife, started to run away, OJ ran after him, killed him, dumped his body near hers and vamoosed to Chicago…who the hell sees a guy stabbing a woman and runs toward the stabbing, unarmed, to stop it? how would you stop it? that’s why scenarios one and two are implausible ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/9 "2014-06-12T06:42:56Z")
Didn’t the if I did it book clear that up? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/10 "2014-06-12T07:52:43Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Didn’t the if I did it book clear that up? O.J. claimed his account of the murders was hypothetical. He did not come out and call it a confession. He did not claim his book was the absolute truth. It may indeed be part fact and part fiction, but the jury is still out [heh] on that one. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/11 "2014-06-12T08:08:19Z")
Right, but I’m responding to **Suicide** ’s question. In OJ’s _entirely hypothetical_ account, does he say the sequence of events? ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/12 "2014-06-12T08:16:07Z")
Iirc, the alternate theory provided by the defense was that Nicole and Goldman were fighting, ninja-style, in the yard and gave each other critical knife wounds with identical knives (or was it they were taking turns stabbing each other with the same knife) and that OJ came when they were both already dead and tried to administer CPR or something which is how the blood got on his gloves. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/13 "2014-06-12T08:28:01Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Right, but I’m responding to **Suicide** ’s question. In OJ’s _entirely hypothetical_ account, does he say the sequence of events? O.J. said he had an unwilling accomplice named Charlie. ---
**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/14 "2014-06-12T10:26:22Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > O.J. said he had an unwilling accomplice named Charlie. Umm…is this a pun on Charlie’s OJ? 🙂 It’s a high quality orange juice. [http://www.charlies.co.nz/](http://www.charlies.co.nz/) ---
**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/15 "2014-06-12T11:16:11Z")
I thought the defense named him. Mr. Real Killer ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/16 "2014-06-12T12:13:11Z")
> [@davida03801](#): > > I thought the defense named him. > Mr. Real Killer Did they ever figure out what golf course Mr. Real Killer hung out at? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/17 "2014-06-12T12:30:46Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > Did they ever figure out what golf course Mr. Real Killer hung out at? Gory Pines? ---
**Author:** ![MostlyUseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MostlyUseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyUseless)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/18 "2014-06-12T12:48:17Z")
I have always had a couple of problems with OJ actually committing the wet work. Killing two people with a knife is an incredibly bloody event as you can see in just looking at the crime scene photos. I have a hard time believing that OJ was able to successfully carry off two knifings without being bathed in blood. The minute traces of blood found in the Bronco are simply insufficient. Even if you hold that he disposed of the blood soaked clothing, wherever he cleaned off should have had some traces of the blood remaining. Additionally, you have quite a tight timeline. I have no doubt that OJ was behind the killings, but I just am not so sure that he actually performed the work. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/19 "2014-06-12T13:18:25Z")
Now if he had cut himself or something that might have tilted the balance for you . . . ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/20 "2014-06-12T14:17:15Z")
> [@MostlyUseless](#): > > I have no doubt that OJ was behind the killings, but I just am not so sure that he actually performed the work. Then why exactly did he bleed all over the crime scene? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591.md?page=2)