# Was anyone other than O.J. seriously considered a suspect in the Nicole and Ron murders?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 12, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591 "2014-06-12T02:11:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/41 "2014-06-13T06:07:21Z")

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Is wearing latex gloves going to make that much of a difference when trying on the “crime” cloves? Latex gloves are skin tight and designed not to add bulk (well, at least my doctor’s are when he sez “cough”). I remember (its been awhile) OJ could barely get his hand into the gloves in question. If he could shoe horn his hands into these gloves would he have been able to grasp something like a knife? - I’m just asking. Given this was a crucial part of the case couldn’t OJ have been instructed to remove the latex gloves and try again?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/42 "2014-06-13T06:08:36Z")

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> [@electronbee](#):
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> OJ is man with money, connections, fame; therefore a lot to loose. Spending half his wealth, even more, to maintain his life style is not that far fetched. Obviously, his reputation suffered, but, he’s a free man enjoying life.

electonbee, I believe he is in jail in Nevada for a couple of years, but still looking for the killer.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/43 "2014-06-13T06:11:50Z")

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Dana Carvey - [Framin’ OJ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw_CtUR9Lh0). Still works.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/44 "2014-06-13T15:16:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I remember (its been awhile) OJ could barely get his hand into the gloves in question.

Here’s a pic of him with the gloves at least 85% completely on.

[http://rantsofasassystew.com/2012/05/if-it-doesnt-fit-just-fucking-stop/](http://rantsofasassystew.com/2012/05/if-it-doesnt-fit-just-fucking-stop/)

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**Author:** ![Red\_Stilettos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/fbc32d/32.png) [@Red\_Stilettos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Stilettos)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/45 "2014-06-13T15:25:22Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Is wearing latex gloves going to make that much of a difference when trying on the “crime” cloves? Latex gloves are skin tight and designed not to add bulk (well, at least my doctor’s are when he sez “cough”). I remember (its been awhile) OJ could barely get his hand into the gloves in question. If he could shoe horn his hands into these gloves would he have been able to grasp something like a knife? - I’m just asking. Given this was a crucial part of the case couldn’t OJ have been instructed to remove the latex gloves and try again?

It’s not that the latex gloves added bulk. They added friction. It is quite difficult to get gloves on over latex gloves unless the outer glove is much larger. He probably could have gotten them on with some effort and fiddling, but the extra resistance from the latex certainly helped with the “they don’t fit” shenanigans.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/46 "2014-06-13T15:44:01Z")

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It’s easy not to get them on if you’re \*trying \*not to get them on.

**MostlyUseless** , the bloodied clothes would have been in the garment bag he gave to Kardashian upon his return from Chicago, who then made it disappear. So not only did Slut Daddy not get charged as an accomplice, he actually acted as counsel.

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**Author:** ![toast\_pakora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ec8ea/32.png) [@toast\_pakora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toast_pakora)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/47 "2014-06-13T15:58:11Z")

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Anyone who has had to stuff an unwilling toddler into a snowsuit would’ve been unmoved by OJ’s performance.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/48 "2014-06-13T18:50:21Z")

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> [@davida03801](#):
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> I thought the defense named him.  
> Mr. Real Killer

wasn’t it supposed to be the one-armed man who fit the glove?

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**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/49 "2014-06-13T19:20:39Z")

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To this day I remain unclear on how a 50-year-old man with arthritis can kill two people with a knife - both of whom were half his age and in peak physical health, and one of whom was a ski instructor.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/50 "2014-06-13T19:24:29Z")

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he used the golf cure for the arthritis.

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**Author:** ![NVME702-redux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@NVME702-redux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NVME702-redux)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/51 "2014-06-13T20:34:09Z")

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> To this day I remain unclear on how a 50-year-old man with arthritis can kill two people with a knife - both of whom were half his age and in peak physical health, and one of whom was a ski instructor.

OJ was an All American Running Back, granted in 1967, but he set world records (back then) in sprint relay 4 X 110, a Heisman Trophy winner for USC and was an all time leading rusher (placing second when he retired) in the NFL.

Even if you are 20 years older then when you last played professionally, there are some things, that when your adrenaline is pumping, it all comes back to you.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/52 "2014-06-13T22:05:10Z")

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> [@DataX](#):
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> Why the prosecution did this [asked OJ to try on the gloves] in the first place is a mystery to me.

According to Wikipedia: “On June 15, 1995, defense attorney Johnnie Cochran goaded assistant prosecutor Christopher Darden into asking Simpson to put on the leather glove that was found at the scene of the crime.” Annoyingly, they don’t go into detail as to what exactly Cochran said to ‘goad’ Darden.

Another reason for the glove not fitting: OJ may have avoided taking his arthritis medication (which contained an anti-inflammatory drug) the day of the demo, allowing his hands to swell up.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/53 "2014-06-13T22:31:26Z")

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> To this day I remain unclear on how a 50-year-old man with arthritis can kill two people with a knife - both of whom were half his age and in peak physical health, and one of whom was a ski instructor.

O.J. was 6’1" and a former athlete. Nicole was only 5’5". Goldman’s height is variously given as 5’9" or 6’1". O.J. was prepared for what he was going to do, at least in Nicole’s case, while the victims were taken by surprise. It doesn’t seem that astonishing to me.

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**Author:** ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/54 "2014-06-13T23:16:43Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> According to Wikipedia: “On June 15, 1995, defense attorney Johnnie Cochran goaded assistant prosecutor Christopher Darden into asking Simpson to put on the leather glove that was found at the scene of the crime.” Annoyingly, they don’t go into detail as to what exactly Cochran said to ‘goad’ Darden.
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> Another reason for the glove not fitting: OJ may have avoided taking his arthritis medication (which contained an anti-inflammatory drug) the day of the demo, allowing his hands to swell up.

Oh - I agree that stuff is true - I just don’t get the point. They were extra large gloves. Most people think of that as the largest size possible (I realize they aren’t). The fact that they fit him would not impress me at all - they should be big enough fit almost anyone - and maybe if he had toddler hands it would look silly.

The fact that the gloves fit (in the prosecutions mind at least) - really didn’t add anything but theatrics. Might as well have him sit outside in the bronco - or show he can hold a knife.

And as far as the posts about arthritis. That is what the defense kept claiming - they piped down on that a little bit after the prosecution found a fitness video that OJ recorded - four months earlier.

I didn’t see the video, but it obviously was the type of video that was like “ooh - follow the moves I do on screen and you can be in shape just like me.”

I’m guessing if he truly had movement issues - he wouldn’t have been able to record such a video. And if it truly showed him looking like an old man - Johhny Cochrane would probably have added that to his rhyme “if OJ can’t sit - you must acquit.”

ETA: actually - I guess I can see goading maybe being the reason - if you are stressed out like I’m sure Darden was - I guess it make sense he might have let his emotions get the better of him. At least it is a plausible reason.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/55 "2014-06-14T01:25:09Z")

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> [@electronbee](#):
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> OJ is man with money, connections, fame; therefore a lot to loose. Spending half his wealth, even more, to maintain his life style is not that far fetched. Obviously, his reputation suffered, but, he’s a free man enjoying life.

> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> electonbee, I believe he is in jail in Nevada for a couple of years, but still looking for the killer.

Prison, not just jail. He’s been convicted

He was actually sentenced to 33 years in prison, the first 9 without parole. I don’t know when he’ll actually get out, but he’s been there since 2008.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/56 "2014-06-14T01:35:42Z")

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> [@toast\_pakora](#):
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> Anyone who has had to stuff an unwilling toddler into a snowsuit would’ve been unmoved by OJ’s performance.

😃

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-anyone-other-than-o-j-seriously-considered-a-suspect-in-the-nicole-and-ron-murders/690591/57 "2014-06-14T16:36:15Z")

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I’ve always thought that he did it. I’m unimpressed by the Faye Resnick story. I’m a little more impressed by the serial killer who happened to be working as a handy man (or whatever the actual story is-- it’s been a long time since I saw the documentary), and apparently did steal a piece of jewelry from Ms. Brown, but gory knifings weren’t his MO, IIRC.

However, if someone altogether different confesses some day (with evidence), I won’t be shocked; after all, I was once thoroughly convinced that Gary Condit was responsible for the death of Chandra Levy.

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> [@toast\_pakora](#):
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> Anyone who has had to stuff an unwilling toddler into a snowsuit would’ve been unmoved by OJ’s performance.
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> > [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> > 😃

+2

And I might add, put on jeans fresh out of the wash on the first day of your period. But an hour later, they fit just fine.

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