# Was Final Jeopardy! wrong? (spoilers for 11-04-14 show)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 5, 2014, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720 "2014-11-05T07:29:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/21 "2014-11-10T19:09:21Z")

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As the Denver Broncos’ logo consists of a stylized drawing of a horse’s head, would you say the Broncos do not count as among those teams whose logos are animals?

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**Author:** ![tenacious\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tenacious\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tenacious_j)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/22 "2014-11-10T21:34:21Z")

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saw that coming as soon as I posted. It’s just not the same, because reasons.  
I see horse face I think animal. I see fleur de lis, I don’t think plant. I think wallpaper.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/23 "2014-11-10T21:41:33Z")

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> [@tenacious\_j](#):
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> saw that coming as soon as I posted. It’s just not the same, because reasons.  
> I see horse face I think animal. I see fleur de lis, I don’t think plant. I think wallpaper.

Suit yourself. But that Jeopardy! thinks otherwise is not, _I_ think, entirely unreasonable. Regardless, my only reason for entering this thread was confusion at not considering a flower to be a plant.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/24 "2014-11-10T21:48:46Z")

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> [@tenacious\_j](#):
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> I was tired and didn’t look it up but here is the EXACT clue:  
> “This NFL team’s logo is the only one that is a plant”
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> So no, they should not have accepted “fleur de lis” when historically, Jeopardy has been so very intolerant of this sort of thing, and when, it’s not a team!

Not getting the problem–why isn’t the clue referring to “this NFL team’s logo” instead of to “This NFL team”? Indeed, if they wanted to refer to the team, they could have said, “This NFL team is the only one whose logo is a plant.”

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/25 "2014-11-10T22:15:18Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Not getting the problem–why isn’t the clue referring to “this NFL team’s logo” instead of to “This NFL team”? Indeed, if they wanted to refer to the team, they could have said, “This NFL team is the only one whose logo is a plant.”

We might have a better argument either way if we knew the category of the Final Jeopardy! answer.

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**Author:** ![tenacious\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tenacious\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tenacious_j)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/26 "2014-11-10T22:21:06Z")

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The category was “Sports Logos.”

“This team’s logo” refers to the team. The logo of this team, not this logo.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/27 "2014-11-10T23:22:55Z")

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The category was “Sports Logos”. So it refers to the logo. Case closed.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/28 "2014-11-10T23:43:41Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> watching Jeopardy! online is illegal, y’know

Yeah, but once you get convicted, they can’t arrest you again.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/29 "2014-11-11T00:23:40Z")

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> > watching Jeopardy! online is illegal, y’know
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> Yeah, but once you get convicted, they can’t arrest you again.

Yes they can-but only after the commercial.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/30 "2014-11-11T06:17:08Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> The category was “Sports Logos”. So it refers to the logo. Case closed.

That’s now how the categories work. Otherwise the answer to today’s (11/10) would’ve been

Seward’s Day, not Alaska.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/31 "2014-11-13T20:27:34Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Not getting the problem–why isn’t the clue referring to “this NFL team’s logo” instead of to “This NFL team”? Indeed, if they wanted to refer to the team, they could have said, “This NFL team is the only one whose logo is a plant.”

This is convincing to me. The clue as given is ambiguous whether it’s looking for the team or the logo. If it were unambiguous (as the above is), then offering the logo would be incorrect.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-final-jeopardy-wrong-spoilers-for-11-04-14-show/703720/32 "2014-11-14T00:11:14Z")

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Spoilers for 11/12 show:

Really disappointed Julia lost. Was looking forward to the Julia/Arthur face-off.

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