# Was George Bush Sr. Deep Throat?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 5, 2005, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500 "2005-02-05T07:23:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2005, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/41 "2005-02-08T03:29:37Z")

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For whatever it’s worth, Ben Stein denies that he’s Deep Throat.

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**Author:** ![markdiscordia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@markdiscordia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdiscordia)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2005, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/42 "2005-02-08T09:21:43Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> For whatever it’s worth, Ben Stein denies that he’s Deep Throat.

Also, he was on Loveline last week. He’s healthy and in his early 60s.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2005, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/43 "2005-02-08T13:22:41Z")

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If Stein were Deep Throat, that would explain his money and his incredible smugness. He acts like a man with a huge private secret.

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/44 "2005-02-08T15:33:53Z")

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In related news Deep Throat is returning to theaters.

[http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/08/leisure.deepthroat.reut/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/08/leisure.deepthroat.reut/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/45 "2005-02-08T19:39:19Z")

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> [@Tapioca Dextrin](#):
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> If it’s someone who was prominent in the Whitehouse and is currently near death, maybe Gerald Ford?? :eek: (my money’s on Haig, though).

Ford wasn’t in the White House during the critical early period, from late 1972 to mid-1973, when Deep Throat seems to have given most of his information to Woodward. (Going by my recollection of _All the President’s Men_.) He was busy being minority leader in the House of Representatives. He didn’t get sworn in as Veep until December 6, 1973, according to this [bio](http://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/grf/fordbiop.htm).

Similarly, Haig wasn’t in the inner political circles at the White House during this period. He was in Kissinger’s office as a national security adviser from 1969-1973, according to this [bio](http://www.infoplease.com/birthday?date=11-27-2005).

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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/46 "2005-02-08T19:48:36Z")

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> [@infamousmom](#):
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> Be pretty funny if it turns out to be true. The guy always was a weasel.
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> I’m still leaning toward Alexander Haig, myself.

Me too! 🙂

It would be the ultimate insanity from an ultimately insane man.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/47 "2005-02-08T20:33:39Z")

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> [@stochastic](#):
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> Dean says that he doesn’t know who DT is, just that he knows he’s ill, and that we’ll probably find out who it is very soon.

Actually it was just a bout of indigestion and I’m feeling much better now. Sorry for the false alarm.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/48 "2005-02-08T23:41:31Z")

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I had thought Deep Throat was none other than Nixon himself.

He anonymously narced himself out, purposly sabotaging his own presidency in order to avoid handing over the White House taped recordings which contain his involvement in the Bay of Pigs invasion and subsequent Kennedy Assasination.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/49 "2005-02-09T02:37:28Z")

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My money is on either William Rehnquist or Gerald Ford. They’re the only people I can think of who were in a position to know and who are now gravely ill.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/50 "2005-02-09T02:48:58Z")

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Hmm…hadn’t thought of Rehnquist in a while. I think you may have something there, **Sam**.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/51 "2005-02-09T03:37:20Z")

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Ford was in the House of Representatives until late in 1973 (sworn in as vice president on December 6, 1973). But I believe Woodward met with Deep Throat in 1972. So I can’t imagine a congressman would know that much about what was going on in the Nixon White House.

On the other hand, Rehnquist joined the Supreme Court on January 7, 1972, although he was an assistant attorney general in 1969-1971. So from 1972 onwards, would he be familiar with the goings on at the White House?

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2005, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/52 "2005-02-09T17:15:52Z")

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I thought William Safire was high on most peoples’ lists. Strange that I haven’t seem him mentioned here.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/53 "2005-02-10T05:24:56Z")

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I find it odd that Woodward and Bernstein will only reveal Deep Throat’s identity AFTER he’s dead, and can no longer deny being Deep Throat!

Given Woodward’s record of dissembling (anybody REALLY believe he sneaked into William Casey’s hospital room and got a dying confession?), I’m inclined to doubt his word on this.

I don’t believe Deep Throat existed. I think he’s a convenient, composite character.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/54 "2005-05-31T15:46:06Z")

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This just in - [W. Mark Felt](http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8047258/) says in Vanity Fair magazine that he was deep throat.

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**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/55 "2005-05-31T15:54:55Z")

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Has Woodward confirmed?

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/56 "2005-05-31T15:59:58Z")

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> [@stochastic](#):
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> FWIW, Keith Olberman on MSNBC did a story on Deep Throat yesterday and claims that he’ll have a major announcement regarding their identity on Sunday.

Deep Throat is a number of persons? Or did you mean to write “his identity”? Woodward has said that Deep Throat is an individual male, not a composite.

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**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/57 "2005-05-31T16:00:41Z")

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> [@marymargaret](#):
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> Has Woodward confirmed?

Not yet. All 3 of them have declined to comment as of yet.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/58 "2005-05-31T16:01:36Z")

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I think W&B are _still_ saying that they’re not going to comment one way or the other until Deep Throat is dead.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/59 "2005-05-31T16:10:38Z")

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Woodward and Bernstein’s refusal to confirm or deny that W. Mark Felt is Deep Throat makes no sense. If he was Deep Throat, is there any good reason not to confirm this, now that he has revealed himself? If he was not Deep Throat, is there any good reason not to deny his claim?

Their refusal to comment on Felt’s claim only adds to the suspicion that Woodward and Bernstein may eventually give a false answer to who Deep Throat is, with that deceased person unable to defend himself against their claim.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-bush-sr-deep-throat/288500/60 "2005-05-31T16:14:29Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> Their refusal to comment on Felt’s claim only adds to the suspicion that Woodward and Bernstein may eventually give a false answer to who Deep Throat is, with that deceased person unable to defend himself against their claim.

Who is suspicious of this?  
Unless Woodward starts denying it soon I think it’s probably safe to read between the lines here. I can’t see why they wouldn’t deny it immediately if it was false.

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