# Was George on Seinfeld supposed to be gay? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078 "2009-07-24T03:03:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Troubles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Troubles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troubles)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/1 "2009-07-24T03:03:26Z")
Throughout _Seinfeld_’s run, quite a lot of jokes were made at the expense of George’s sexuality. Today, I watched an early _Seinfeld_ episode, _The Note_, and one of the plot points was George’s sexual insecurity. This, combined with remembrance of all the other jokes made about his sexuality, got me wondering - was George actually supposed to be some super-closeted gay man, or am I mining far too much from the jokes? Or did this depend on the writer? ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/2 "2009-07-24T03:10:39Z")
No. I never thought that at all. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.) ---
**Author:** ![SSG\_Schwartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SSG\_Schwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SSG_Schwartz)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/3 "2009-07-24T03:13:13Z")
No, George Castanza was not gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that. He was just a slightly neurotic very close friend of Jerry’s. Remember the episode where he was dating the girl who looked like Jerry and he was kind of grossed out by it? SSG Schwartz ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/4 "2009-07-24T03:16:08Z")
> [@SSG\_Schwartz](#): > > No, George Castanza was not gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that. He was just a slightly neurotic very close friend of Jerry’s. Remember the episode where he was dating the girl who looked like Jerry and he was kind of grossed out by it? > > SSG Schwartz That’s not evidence that he’s straight. Everyone in the show is so superficial that I could see any of them faking disgust just so they don’t break out of their norm. That said, it never even crossed my mind that George might be gay. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/5 "2009-07-24T03:18:25Z")
No, George wasn’t gay. Yes he asked his girlfriend to have a threeway with her male room mate, yes he finds it particularly hard admitting a guy’s good looking, and yes, it moved. But no, I’m quite sure he wasn’t, unless he was in DEEP denial. Maybe bisexual or bi-curious. He slept with women, and seemed to be happy with that. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/6 "2009-07-24T03:19:53Z")
George was just a bundle of insecurities, but straight. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/7 "2009-07-24T03:29:22Z")
George was kinda a sociopath, but not gay. And, yes, there is something wrong with **that**. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/8 "2009-07-24T03:47:56Z")
No. I think Kramer might have been bisexual, but not George. Neurotic as hell, but not gay. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/9 "2009-07-24T03:54:56Z")
George wasn’t gay, just extremely insecure about his masculinity and terrified that he might have _subconscious_ gay feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/10 "2009-07-24T04:42:19Z")
Did anyone see [Love! Valor! Compassion!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119578/) (1997)? I always wondered if Jason Alexander chose to play a gay character in response to his George’s anti-gay attitude on _Seinfeld_. ---
**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/11 "2009-07-24T05:39:35Z")
No, George wasn’t gay, but he claimed that his father was, due to seeing Frank and Kramer draped over each other in their underwear on a pool table, and Frank wearing a bro, or mansierre, and Frank buying the young George dolls for Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/12 "2009-07-24T09:10:23Z")
George? Gay? Not a chance. No television character of comparable attractiveness and attitude will ever score as many babes as George Costanza did. If the writers were trying to secretly make him gay, they did a **very** poor job of it. ---
**Author:** ![Slade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@Slade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slade)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/13 "2009-07-24T10:23:30Z")
The gay jokes in Seinfeld were aimed more at straight men’s paranoia about ever being _thought_ gay. Jerry shared this tendency too. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/14 "2009-07-24T10:31:11Z")
George was propbably the straightest man in the history of television. It’s not something we straight guys are proud of. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/15 "2009-07-24T13:12:04Z")
George was based on series creator Larry David who is definitely not gay. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/16 "2009-07-24T14:20:43Z")
> [@SSG\_Schwartz](#): > > No, George Castanza was not gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that. He was just a slightly neurotic very close friend of Jerry’s. Remember the episode where he was dating the girl who looked like Jerry and he was kind of grossed out by it? > > SSG Schwartz Or, as Kramer put it, “George’s man-love for a she-Jerry.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/17 "2009-07-24T14:24:27Z")
Well, there was the episode where he had a crush on that mountain climbing dude (I think he was played by Dan Cortese) that Elaine was dating. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/18 "2009-07-24T14:32:20Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > No, George wasn’t gay. Yes he asked his girlfriend to have a threeway with her male room mate, yes he finds it particularly hard admitting a guy’s good looking, and yes, it moved. > > But no, I’m quite sure he wasn’t, unless he was in DEEP denial. Maybe bisexual or bi-curious. > He slept with women, and seemed to be happy with that. I strongly disagree. George was **never** happy with the women he slept with. OK, maybe the one who he could also watch TV and eat pastrami sandwiches with. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/19 "2009-07-24T14:57:47Z")
It’s funny, that’s what came to mind when I wrote that – The one who he could also watch TV and eat pastrami sandwiches with. There always seemed to be barriers George built up in his head that prevented him from enjoying himself. We do know he was attracted to women, and that he wanted to have sex with them. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078/20 "2009-07-24T19:24:33Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > George wasn’t gay, just extremely insecure about his masculinity and terrified that he might have _subconscious_ gay feelings. This says it perfectly. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-george-on-seinfeld-supposed-to-be-gay/504078.md?page=2)