Was Highlander 1 really that good?

I agree! It’s great! I got it on DVD, special edition, wide screen and all. And I still love it. On the other hand, I got Highlander on DVD as a gift, and it’s true, it doesn’t stand the test of time. It’s one of those one off movies that is plot driven, but once you know that plot there’s little left. On the other hand, the plot is just a small part of the spectacle with Kurt Russell and a young Kim Catrall (sp?).

Well I haven’t seen the movie in 10 years (I stopped watching the DVD I got after a few minutes) but I always understood he was meant to use the prize to understand the thoughts of world leaders and help bring about world peace.

That idea of the reward alone sure has some potential for a sequal, and I’m surprised they couldn’t find a scriptwriter to do anything half decent with it. It’s tempting to go there some day.

When I first saw Highlander, my mom had rented it to watch it with me and my brothers. She said, “The first part of the movie is really cool, but you’re not going to have any idea what’s going on for a while.” Since you (the OP) saw the series first, this part was probably just another ho-hum fight to you, and I can understand why.

Also, I was 12. Swordfights and magical powers? Totally kick ass when you’re 12.

You’re also missing quite a bit when watching it on TV. I nearly wore out my VHS copy taped from FOX before I ever saw the full movie. There are whole scenes that didn’t make the cut, and some great lines. Even more so in the director’s cut, showing how Connor met Rachel (his secretary).

But mainly it’s probably due to familiarity to the Highlander universe, like everyone else said, the main beauty of it is the WTF moments, when we don’t know what’s going on or why and seeing it all unfold.

That and one of the greatest movie villians of all time. Clancy Brown was amazing as the Kurgan. “I took his head, and raped his woman before his blood was even cold. … ah… I see… she was not his woman, she was your woman. And she never told you. Perhaps I gave her something you never could, and secretly she longed for my return.” What a delightfully despicable bastard.

Eh. Hugely over-rated. Badly acted, poorly plotted, uninspiring action. It’s just dull. And Christopher Lambert needs to be physically restrained from ever appearing in another movie for the rest of his life. Good lord, that man’s a joke.

And this is coming from a guy who owns Krull on DVD, so I know from my schlocky cult movies.

Word. Wasn’t there also a red-headed princess thrown in there?

Okay, the Kurgan was a bad-ass and the movie did inspire two of my favorite Aqua Teen Hunger Force moments (the Highlander arguement at the cliffs and Master Shake with the giant sword). I guess I can see some of the appeal.

“The Highlander was a doc-u-mentary and events happened in real time.”

Midichlorians?

This point cannot be stated strongly enough. When you had none of the backstory and were watching the movie for the first time, the whole experience was bizarre and mind twisting. Just following the story was like trying to solve a really good logic puzzle. Plus, there were cool swordfights, lightning shooting from people’s hands and Sean Connery. In the 80’s, that’s about as cool as it got.

I imagine watching the movie after already having seen the series would be like hearing a joke when you already know the punchline. It just won’t be interesting. No surprise that the movie hasn’t held up. Frankly, I was amazed the series ran as long as it did.

If you don’t think Sean Connery with a samurai sword is the coolest thing ever, there’s probably something wrong with you.

I said I liked James Bond, you haggis!

:wink:

I’m with the OP on loving the TV show, and not so much for the movie. (To restress a number of others: THE movie. There have been no others made. Nope)

Part of it is that Lambert really is just not a great actor. Part is that with the mindfuck that the idea surely was at the time, you got one storyline that, once you understand the way the world is working around the story, the story itself is pretty tame.

The TV series, you got a number of extended story arcs and mini-series type scenarios (ah, “To Be Continued…” is my friend), but also a couple of dozen different explorations on the theme (the hero has to do battle with a female immortal, or better yet a female immortal former love interest. Or a child immortal. Or an immortal that the hero knows is not bad, simply wrong place wrong time in relation to the hero. Etc.) And Adrian Paul was so much better than Christopher Lambert. Better grasp of the martial arts, cool ponytail and clothing (for the early 90s anyway), still not a great actor but decent enough to pull off the role, even in episodes with little or no swordfighting, and a campy sense of humor from time to time once the world’s rules had been established to the viewer.

Hey! Don’t be dissin’ Lord Rayden!

In all seriousness though, I think Christopher Lambert is a perfectly good actor. I liked him in Highlander, Fortress (what little he could do with that part) and especially Greystoke.

I lost my post, I think it’s gone to Zeist. (And who knows what they’ll make of it…)

Well, um, anyone who saw the TV series first is gonna have a distorted viewpoint. Not only is it like reading the end of a mystery first, but the TV series is a distortion, even a wreck, of the original concept.

As for the movie being “that cool,” well, how cool is “that cool”? Highlander was silly, over the top, & simply bizarre. On the plus side, it had probably the coolest approach to movie music ever, it was entirely shot on location, it had sharp dialogue, it was incredibly original, & very bizarre. The first attempt at a sequel missed most of this. It had generic classical music, was entirely shot in studio, had lame dialogue, ripped off Blade Runner (badly) for its vision of the future, & was, well, revisionistly & excessively bizarre.

Not that Highlander should have had a sequel. Or been made into a TV series. The TV series is a remarkable achievement, in that it’s a horrible idea done watchably, with characters that are sympathetic enough to hook fans despite the fact that this concept should never have been extended to this degree, it doesn’t bear looking at that closely.

The third & fourth theatrical releases are in something like the TV continuity, hence not in the movie continuity, & they’re not even that good as TV eps. Basically, they figured out that good art direction mattered after the failure of their first attempt at a sequel, & unfortunately, that’s all they learned.

Highlander III should be shown in film schools next to Highlander as a textbook example of how not to write a sequel. It tries to grab the fans by repeatedly quoting emotionally evocative phrases from the original while trashing the premise of said original so they can reiterate a travesty of the plot of same original. You know, in lieu of script.

And the “fourth movie” not only makes no sense at all except in the weird little alternate continuity of the TV version (Way to alienate the movie fans!), but pretty well actively contradicts what we know of the personal history of MacLeod. Even for something in the TV continuity, it seems off. And the acting is wooden.

All of which proves that the first one was at least somewhat cool, since it sequels are all horrible, horrible in different ways, & the first one… isn’t horrible in those ways. Well, it can’t be horrible in all those ways, it’s not a sequel. But still, it’s a little bit cool.

Ah, well, not everyone appreciates it. “I knew you guys were bottle-fed.”

What’s not to love : sword-fighting, decapitation and lots and lots of very funny dialogue in bad accents.
This is an all-time favourite in my circle of friends.
Who can hate a movie with lines as : (read in a thick Scottish accent)
“Burn him, burn him!!!”
“There’ll be no burning here today, we’ll banish him”
“Burn him!!!”
“Can you walk?”
“I’ll bloody well walk out of here. I won’t forget you, Angus”
Of course the best part of the movie was Clancy Brown’s fantastic Kurgan.
This was and still is the coolest bad guy ever.

“I am in disguise… this way noone will recognise me”

“Nuns, no sense of humour”

How so? The TV show didn’t seem that bad, and it did not seem to deviate that far from the basic theme of the movie (it did water down the “there can be only one” theme a bit, but not that much). I curious as to your thinking.

“Hello pretty.” - My wife and I have used this for the last 16 years, with the voice of course. I also like, “Hi Mom!”

Prostitute: I’m Candy.
Kurgan: Of course you are.
Throw in the French duel, and it is impossible to hate this movie. Sure it is sad to see the aged effects, but Conner MacCloud of the clan MacCloud is still Conner MacCloud of the clan MacCloud.

Um, “MacLeod,” maybe?

Highlander was an okay movie, that’s still bearable to watch every so often. That cannot be said for many movies, which means that it should get some credit. On the other hand, Lambert was dreadful, and Connery mis-cast.

Big Trouble In Little China? Great flick! Krull? Not so much, even with Liam Neeson in it.

It’s one of those geek things.

If you’re a movie fan, you’re not allowed to admit the TV series wasn’t the work of Satan.

That has got to be Kurgan’s best line in the entire movie.

Big Trouble in Little China is clearly superior to Highlander and well, most other movies as well.

I guess it’s a “had to be there” thing, because now when I catch Highlander on HBO or Cinemax, all I can do is laugh and laugh. That is one bad movie. I think the worst part was when what’s her face decided to sleep with the Highlander for no other reason than he’s immortal (Lambert did a horrible job too. And I honestly didn’t know if I was supposed to take Connery’s character seriously. I thought they were trying to pull a joke on the audience…Sorta, “you’re not really buying this crap are ya?” kinda thing.). I wonder how bad Highlander II has to be in comparison–are we talking Red Zone Cuba bad?

Clancy Brown, however, and as always, was brilliant. And hot in a very scary, very bad way.

Another vote: Highlander was okay, but the Kurgan rocked.

I did like the “exploration” of the immortal world and mindset of the TV series.

I remember an interview of Clancy Brown after Highlander was released, in which he expressed the opinion that the bad guy should have been an Armani-suit wearing, smooth talking bastard.