Was It All An Accident...Or Did An Intelligent

Why not? Where did god come from?

Only God knows… :slight_smile:

In other words, Occams’s Razor trumps Pascal’s Wager.

To paraphrase: “You’re very clever, young man, very clever. But it’s gods all the way down!”

Best you can hope for is an occasional accidental rudimentary glimpse of limited order among predominant randomness, and it cannot sustain its ordered structure due to the tendancy to greater randomness. Can the human mind even imagine the quantum leap that would have to occur to make order from chaos? ANd then somehow survive and add to itself. There is no process that can naturally make this occur. I may revise my original conjecture and say that intelligent order is so cpmplex it is probably mathematically closer to “order-squared-squared”. A very complex structure of matter-energy.

Do you know what a “quantum leap” is?

Congratulations. You have just proved that god cannot exist.

Nonsequitor

Desperation.

I’m not talking quantum mechanics here; I’m using the colloquiel adjective to illustrate something occuring spontaneously that has greater complexity and emanating from an earlier state of simplicity.

And the god of your sect of your religion is the answer, right?

I do detect the desperation in what you’re saying. At least you’re being honest.
But hey, take that lightly. Nobody else on the planet knows the answers to that mystery. Even theists don’t know. They go on faith to fill the void of not knowing. A different mode than pure knowledge, but it provides for a much more hopeful existance.

I know you are, but what am i? That the best you’ve got?

Because false hope is better than no hope at all? That just doesn’t sound right, even if it were true…and it certainly isn’t.

Anything wrong with that? No better definitive answers have been discovered; it’s a safe, harmless and hopeful place; nothing to lose and potentially much to gain.

Grow up. Obviously you have nothing left to say.

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You cannot “prove” it is a false hope. And to close the remark with “certainly” presumes you are omnicient, and certainly you or any other human are not.

You can’t prove it is not a false hope.

You are absolutely right! But I’d rather be on that side of the ledger than the other side.

If you’ve got the wrong religion, you actually have a lot to lose.

This isn’t much of an argument. Pascal did it much better, and even he understood the flaws in his Wager.