# Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 7, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700 "2015-12-07T12:05:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/1 "2015-12-07T12:05:26Z")
…So said John Belushi’s famously addled character in _Animal House_. Today’s CNN front page has a “National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day” photo…of goose-stepping Nazi soldiers. Cecil Adams once wrote “people today have the historical awareness of tree squirrels.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/2 "2015-12-07T12:34:40Z")
I think people here remember things a bit bet…Squirrel!!! Yeah, you’d think they could find at least one picture from Pearl Harbor…good catch. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/3 "2015-12-07T13:00:29Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > …So said John Belushi’s famously addled character in _Animal House_. Given his drug habit, don’t you mean ‘So said the famously-addled John Belushi’s character…’? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/4 "2015-12-07T13:03:44Z")
Before the maligned movie came out in 2001, I had no idea where Pearl Harbor was located, or what happened there. Such is my ignorance of not just World War II, but American history. \*_Though I am not American_ ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/5 "2015-12-07T13:09:03Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > …So said John Belushi’s famously addled character in _Animal House_. Today’s CNN front page has a “National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day” photo…of goose-stepping Nazi soldiers. What I’m seeing there now under the National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day link is a photo of a burning ship. I think the goose-steppers were meant to be part of the “World War II In Pictures” link that’s right below the Pearl Harbor one. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/6 "2015-12-07T14:12:32Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I think the goose-steppers were meant to be part of the “World War II In Pictures” link that’s right below the Pearl Harbor one. Yes, two different stories. They changed the picture since I saw it at 6:00 CST. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/7 "2015-12-07T14:15:17Z")
Well, it’s all inside the same color background box, labeled “National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day” above and “World War II In Pictures” below. Either the pictures rotate over time, or they made a correction to lead with a Pearl Harbor pic. I’d have done it a little differently, visually setting the non-Pearl pics apart from the Pearl headline. The Pacific War participants are already overshadowed enough by the “Germany First” policy. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/8 "2015-12-07T14:21:18Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Before the maligned movie came out in 2001, I had no idea where Pearl Harbor was located, or what happened there. Such is my ignorance of not just World War II, but American history. [It went something like this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ccuWFidUYI) ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/9 "2015-12-07T14:26:33Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > Well, it’s all inside the same color background box, labeled “National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day” above and “World War II In Pictures” below. **Either the pictures rotate over time** , or they made a correction to lead with a Pearl Harbor pic. Forget it, they’re rolling ? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/10 "2015-12-07T17:21:03Z")
Could have been worse. Fox would have accidentally reported that the attack had been ordered by Adolf Hitler (D). ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/11 "2015-12-07T18:07:25Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > …So said John Belushi’s famously addled character in _Animal House_. Today’s CNN front page has a “National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day” photo…of goose-stepping Nazi soldiers. OMG, please, please, please, post a link or a link to a screen capture. I’m going to look right now. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/12 "2015-12-07T20:29:04Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Could have been worse. Fox would have accidentally reported that the attack had been ordered by Adolf Hitler (D). And/or blamed Obama for it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/13 "2015-12-07T20:42:12Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > And/or blamed Obama for it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/14 "2015-12-07T20:45:36Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > And/or blamed Obama for it. Hmmm… Hawaii is where Obama’s birth certificate was supposed to be. Maybe there is a connection! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/15 "2015-12-07T21:13:25Z")
> [@dracoi](#): > > Hmmm… Hawaii is where Obama’s birth certificate was supposed to be. Maybe there is a connection! And the media is helping him hide Hawaii! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/16 "2015-12-07T21:49:45Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > Cecil Adams once wrote “people today have the historical awareness of tree squirrels.” For the record: [Here it is.](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/291/who-was-phoebe-snow) (Almost. He wrote just “squirrels”, not “tree squirrels”.) > [@Cecil Adams](#): > > You bet, Kent–Phoebe Snow is a pop singer, “a rolling stone gathers no moss” is a Mick Jagger-Keith Richards lyric, and Western Civilization dawned circa 1963. People nowadays have the historical awareness of squirrels. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/17 "2015-12-08T06:27:11Z")
Hell NO! And it ain’t over now. Because when the going gets tough…the tough get going! Who’s with me? Let’s go! ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/18 "2015-12-08T11:34:52Z")
What got me when we visited Pearl Harbor was how small it was. In the movies it seemed so much bigger. BTW, sure was nice for the Japanese to sink those ships in a shallow harbor surrounded by repair facilities. Weren’t most of the ships refloated and back in service within a year? ---
**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/19 "2015-12-09T07:59:51Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > What got me when we visited Pearl Harbor was how small it was. In the movies it seemed so much bigger. > > BTW, sure was nice for the Japanese to sink those ships in a shallow harbor surrounded by repair facilities. Weren’t most of the ships refloated and back in service within a year? Yes, they were reconditioned and weapons systems updated. Of course by this time the Day of the Battleship was pretty much over as carriers had become the new Capital Ships. However, the old battleships got a measure of revenge at the Battle of Surigao Strait in the Philippines in late 1944 as they performed the classic "crossing the T’ on the IJN forces and shot the crap out of them. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700/20 "2015-12-10T00:17:29Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > …So said John Belushi’s famously addled character in _Animal House_. Today’s CNN front page has a “National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day” photo…of goose-stepping Nazi soldiers. > > Cecil Adams once wrote “people today have the historical awareness of tree squirrels.” Cecil was wrong. Squirrels remember where they have buried acorns. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-it-over-when-the-germans-bombed-pearl-harbor/739700.md?page=2)