# Was JFK Secretly Married in 1947? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 23, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071 "2007-01-23T08:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/42 "2011-08-17T16:53:39Z")
While we’re on the subject, I was born on August 20. Darwin published the theory of natural selection in the journal of the Linnean Society on August 20. Therefore, I am the pinnacle of human evolution. Also, 8 20 is the area code for Kansas. Dorothy was from Kansas. Therefore, I am Julie Andrews’ mother. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/43 "2011-08-17T17:01:48Z")
> [@sannemoore](#): > > I couldn’t sleep, and I just finished a beer… What kind of beer? ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/44 "2011-08-17T17:06:37Z")
Also, that Homeless Guy With The Golden Radio Voice is actually the illegitimate son of Colonel Sanders and Maya Angelou, but you don’t see him writing a book about it, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/45 "2011-08-17T17:12:16Z")
I am JFK’s love child and so is my wife. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/46 "2011-08-17T17:16:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > While we’re on the subject, I was born on August 20. Darwin published the theory of natural selection in the journal of the Linnean Society on August 20. Therefore, I am the pinnacle of human evolution. > > Also, 8 20 is the area code for Kansas. Dorothy was from Kansas. Therefore, I am Julie Andrews’ mother. Oh really now. There’s no need to get ridiculous. Although I did grow up in Oklahoma which is due south of Kansas and I am Dorothy. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/47 "2011-08-17T17:18:50Z")
> [@taffygirl](#): > > I went to Amazon and did this. Very sad, and I hope she gets the help she needs. Concur. I am strangely reminded of [Marilyn Gibbs](http://aowf.blogspot.com/), whom I have met. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/48 "2011-08-17T19:30:42Z")
> [@sannemoore](#): > > Yes, Dna does resolve the question. The government and the Kennedys have the Dna.. Jackie Kennedy dies 5-19 my daughters birthday.. John Jr. plane crashed at 9:39 , I was working on air at 93.9fm. They have the proof, but have decided to take the truth to their graves..My life is my proof, my name, birthday, my marriage, my entire life is proof..The coverup continues.. Just to make sure I’m clear on this … you’re using _numerology_ to confirm your paternity? ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/49 "2011-08-17T19:49:44Z")
> [@punch\_line\_loser](#): > > Um, so you’re saying the government orchestrated the time when John Jr.'s plane would crash, and they also somehow decided which day your daughter was going to be born. Can you explain how they managed to do either of these things? I’m also curious, assuming it to be true (ahem), about why the government would want to kill her step brother. Period. And if they did, what purpose would it serve to ensure that he crashed at a time that would relate to the frequency of the radio station that she worked at during the same time. In other words, what would the objective be to this conspiracy to make those two numbers be similar? ETA: I mean her half brother. I also read the back cover of her book. Why would your grandmother be a daughter of Joe Kennedy as well? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/50 "2011-08-17T19:51:32Z")
JFK died the same day as Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis. Clearly they were brothers. ---
**Author:** ![trabajabamos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/47e85d/32.png) [@trabajabamos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/trabajabamos)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/51 "2011-08-17T21:48:45Z")
> [@](#): > > 1990, a secret media frenzy surrounded my life, blind sided and terrified, I questioned my mother and watched her face turn ghostly white, an eternity passed before she gasps, “Shirley you’re crazy this is all in your head.” When I continued to ask questions, she told everyone, “Shirley is schizophrenic, she believes the television talks to her,” and my mother had me committed to the mental hospital, for my own safety. Weeks later my Grandmother came to my rescue when she gave me the first piece of the puzzle of my life when she reminded me of her father’s name, Joe Sire Kennedy. This one clue began my search for the truth. …yes, everything seems to be in order [here](http://www.amazon.com/Code-Name-Apollo-Kennedy-Legacy/dp/1432742027/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1313609704&sr=8-2). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/52 "2011-08-17T21:58:03Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > ETA: I mean her half brother. I also read the back cover of her book. Why would your grandmother be a daughter of Joe Kennedy as well? JFK’s father was Joseph P. Kennedy. There’s no internet evidence of anyone named “Joe Sire Kennedy” anywhere except for **sannemoore** ’s posts on various forums, so I’m guessing that was her grandfather’s name and she thinks the coincidence is meaningful, or she thinks that’s her real grandfather or something. But that’s assuming there’s any explanation the rest of us would understand. **sannemoore** , your stories sound exactly like the symptoms of schizophrenia. You should be talking to a therapist and probably should be on medication. ---
**Author:** ![sco3tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sco3tt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sco3tt)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/53 "2011-08-17T22:31:57Z")
> [@trabajabamos](#): > > …yes, everything seems to be in order [here](http://www.amazon.com/Code-Name-Apollo-Kennedy-Legacy/dp/1432742027/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1313609704&sr=8-2). According to the text preview, Joseph Kennedy, Sr. tried to prevent World War 11. That seems to be working out quite well (so far). Wait a second… JFK was instrumental in the space race, and “World War” is nine characters if you count the space… so “World War 11” must have been Joe Sr.'s secret code for 9/11. Egad! The Kennedys knew about it 70 years ago! ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/54 "2011-08-17T22:55:38Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > I think annulments were handled in Rome at that time. Joe’s influence would have to extend all the way to the Vatican to get those strings pulled. > > As for whether such an annulment would be granted, I can’t say without knowing more about the supposed marriage. If Kennedy and Malcolm were drunk at the time, and decided to get married on the spur of the moment, then that might be grounds for annulment. I assume that Durie Malcolm was not insane, and was not already married. For an annulment to even be an issue, they’d have had to be married in the Church, not just a civil ceremony. No priest would have performed such a marriage without a few prior meetings and possibly some courses / counselling sessions. Possibly the banns would have had to be read publicly also. Much harder to keep all that quiet. If it were a civil ceremony, then yeah - it could have been annulled and the records destroyed quietly. But Joe would not have had to pay off any priests in Florida or Rome - the Church would simply not have recognized the marriage. To Rome, therefore, It Never Happened. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/55 "2011-08-17T23:17:41Z")
Off topic, but any idea how Ted got his “24 years, 3 kids, officiated by a Cardinal” marriage annulled? ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/56 "2011-08-17T23:38:51Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Off topic, but any idea how Ted got his “24 years, 3 kids, officiated by a Cardinal” marriage annulled? WAG: combination of the fact that in the US, it’s almost pro forma to be able to get an annulment (well, that’s a bit flip - but I suspect it’s a bit easier than in other countries), and the fact that he was a Kennedy. Arguably, his tomcattery may have helped, in that it would have been an argument for his unreadiness to truly commit to his first marriage. And his family connections got him out of at least one other legal jam that would have meant a long jail sentence for pretty much anyone else. And lest that get viewed as an un-GQ-like political snark: I liked the man’s politics, but most people wouldn’t argue that his family connections and personal prominence were the reasons he was never charged in the Chappaquiddick incident. ---
**Author:** ![YourAdHere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@YourAdHere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YourAdHere)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/57 "2011-08-18T01:05:59Z")
No wonder fark has the Florida tag ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/58 "2011-08-18T01:18:12Z")
_sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/59 "2011-08-18T02:27:48Z")
[QUOTE=Mama Zappa] And lest that get viewed as an un-GQ-like political snark: I liked the man’s politics, but most people wouldn’t argue that his family connections and personal prominence were the reasons he was never charged in the Chappaquiddick incident. [/QUOTE] That’s assuming he ever got elected to begin with; the cheating on his Harvard exams might have kept people without powerful backers out. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/60 "2011-08-18T02:53:56Z")
Ah, but you are forgetting that 93.9 is just another way of writing 93 x 9 or 837 which was actually 2 years earlier thus changing your birthdate to the same as to when the Great Depression started and…omg… you are responsible for our current economic crisis! JFK knew all along! ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/61 "2011-08-18T03:00:17Z")
Let’s remember also that 93.9, when mentioned in a radio context, actually means a frequency of 93.9 MegaHertz; or to put it another way, 93,900,000 Hertz. And there is a Hertz rental car desk at Kennedy Airport! Those Kennedys left so many clues, I’m surprised we didn’t pick up on this sooner. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071.md?page=4)