# Was JFK Secretly Married in 1947?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [January 23, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071 "2007-01-23T08:04:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![punch\_line\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@punch\_line\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/punch_line_loser)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/62 "2011-08-18T03:14:52Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Let’s remember also that 93.9, when mentioned in a radio context, actually means a frequency of 93.9 MegaHertz; or to put it another way, 93,900,000 Hertz.
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> And there is a Hertz rental car desk at Kennedy Airport!
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> Those Kennedys left so many clues, I’m surprised we didn’t pick up on this sooner.

You’re not thinking about the big picture, man. You forget that 93,900,000 is also appreciably close to the commonly cited figure of the Earth’s distance to the sun in miles. JFK’s assassination happened during the day, in full view of the sun.

This looks like a job for the Bookhouse Boys.

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**Author:** ![sannemoore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@sannemoore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sannemoore)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/63 "2011-08-18T04:40:43Z")

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No not numerology… My life… Well as you can see, I told the truth. I am not afraid of being called crazy… I have been certified sane and working in a field where I have been investigated by the FBI, and head of security for many many high rise lawyer offices…  
You have all made me realize I am going about this the wrong way…

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**Author:** ![punch\_line\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@punch\_line\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/punch_line_loser)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/64 "2011-08-18T04:44:13Z")

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Well, posting on the message board of a world-renowned skeptic is sort of a bad place to start expounding on your theory that the US government orchestrated your giving birth to a child on a date with a numerological significance to the assassination of JFK, which by the way you still haven’t explained how.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/65 "2011-08-18T04:51:37Z")

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> [@sannemoore](#):
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> No not numerology.. My life.. Well as you can see, I told the truth. I am not afraid of being called crazy.. I have been certified sane and working in a field where I have been investigated by the FBI, and head of security for many many high rise lawyer offices..  
> You have all made me realize I am going about this the wrong way..

Who certified you?

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**Author:** ![sannemoore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@sannemoore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sannemoore)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/66 "2011-08-18T04:55:38Z")

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None of you realize, that coincidences are facts. I am sure some may be smart enough to understand facts. Everyday people are sent to prision and convicted of crimes because facts connect them to the crimes. It was just a conincidence they were in the bank when it was robbed. Just a coincidence their fingerprints were on the safe, Just a coincidence they own the exact gun that was used. Just a coincidence a car that looked exactly like theirs was parked outside. Just a coincidence they came inherited the same amount of money that was stole…Coincidences are facts when they connect this person to one event…  
I’m begining to believe I am talking to kids.

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**Author:** ![punch\_line\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@punch\_line\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/punch_line_loser)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/67 "2011-08-18T04:58:45Z")

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I really want you to explain how the government was able to decide on which day you would give birth to your daughter, and why they would leave such an obvious clue to the conspiracy they’ve spent your whole life covering up. If you can give me a plausible explanation of this fact, I’m sold.

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**Author:** ![sannemoore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@sannemoore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sannemoore)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/68 "2011-08-18T06:09:12Z")

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Thank you for giving me hell and I agree with you. You are right it is crazy… One day I was a Navy wife and waitress and the next the media were interrested in me… and the next I found hundreds of facts that involved my entire life from my birth to now 62 years later that connected me- a nobody to a President… I tried to believe it was all just coincidences. But it was everything from my birth, it was just too many facts… A hundred too many…Yes, you are right, it made me question my entire life… It should have happened to you.

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**Author:** ![punch\_line\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@punch\_line\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/punch_line_loser)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/69 "2011-08-18T06:11:09Z")

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… What?

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**Author:** ![sannemoore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@sannemoore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sannemoore)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/70 "2011-08-18T06:16:27Z")

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Ok Jackie Kennedy was dying of cancer, I had wrote Rose Kennedy telling her about the facts I was discovering, Jackie knew all about me, she was told the doctors could prolong her life, but she left the hospital and went home to die… Jackie picked that day to die… If you believe for one minute a rich powerful woman like Jackie would suffer in pain when she could quitely die…  
My mother also died of cancer, she suffered and cried out in pain and she was assisted with her death…

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/71 "2011-08-18T07:06:08Z")

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Even if you were JFK’s love-baby, why would governments 40 years later care enough that they would abduct you?

Have you ever considered your cheese might gone done slid off your cracker?

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/72 "2011-08-18T12:38:03Z")

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Ok, since this train wreck is being allowed to continue, I’ll ask the question that’s been on my mind since I first looked up the book on Amazon:

What constitutes a “secret media frezny”?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/73 "2011-08-18T12:40:53Z")

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> [@sannemoore](#):
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> Well as you can see, I told the truth.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/74 "2011-08-18T12:54:40Z")

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I’m sorry folks, but this makes me sad. I am frequently guilty of inappropriate behaviour, but this is just taunting an obviously mentally ill person.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/75 "2011-08-18T13:10:52Z")

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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> If it were a civil ceremony, then yeah - it could have been annulled and the records destroyed quietly. But Joe would not have had to pay off any priests in Florida or Rome - the Church would simply not have recognized the marriage. To Rome, therefore, It Never Happened.

Those two statements contradict themselves, an annullment is equivalent to saying “ok, these two people who we used to think were married, it turns out they were not”. But as you say, since the Church wouldn’t have seen them as married in the first place, there would have been no need or sense to an annullment.

> [@md2000](#):
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> Back when divorce started becoming more publiicly acceptable to the churchy types back around the 1970’s, I recall a complaint about catholics and the annullment process - some lady complaining her lutheran marriage of 25 years was annulled so her ex could remarry in a catholic church. The church happily annulled anything they could, just in case. Of course, it only has force in the Catholic church where it determines if the “next” marriage is legit or not. I assume JFK would have needed a civil divorce or annullment.

Again, no annullment is possible for something which does not exist under the legal system that would grant that annullment. What’s possible is that the civil part of that woman’s marriage was dissolved (via divorce) and the religious part was unrecognized (i.e., treated as nonexistant), rather than annulled.

The government of Spain doesn’t recognize polygamy. That doesn’t mean that if a polygamous family comes into the country they’ll be tossed in jail, but it does mean that wife number N, where N is \>1, can not obtain a divorce from a Spanish court - because a Spanish court does not consider her married. Same with getting an annullment for a non-canonically recognized marriage from the RCC: the RCC needs to recognize a marriage first in order to be able to declare it didn’t ever exist second.

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Off topic, but any idea how Ted got his “24 years, 3 kids, officiated by a Cardinal” marriage annulled?

Having the officiant be a Cardinal doesn’t make the marriage any more valid than having no officiant. Isabel Preysler’s first marriage (7 years, 3 children) was annulled on account of “immaturity of the bride”, her second (5 years, 1 child) because “she does not believe in marriage as a sacrament” (in other words, she’d proven she was willing to roam around so long as the next man was in a better social position than the last), she wanted her third wedding to be Catholic but the request was denied (see reason for second annullment).

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/76 "2011-08-18T13:16:37Z")

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Left out in last post:

Quoting one of the guys who wrote the latest Catechism, “if people knew how easy it is to get an annullment, there would be a lot more annullments; most people simply don’t bother ask.”

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**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/77 "2011-08-18T13:27:11Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> What constitutes a “secret media frezny”?

Bad spelling if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/78 "2011-08-18T14:13:16Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> What constitutes a “secret media frezny”?

Misspelling aside, I imagine it’s a lot like Thunderdome. Put a gay-bashing but outed homosexual politician in the middle of a cage. Fifteen journalists enter, one journalist leaves.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/79 "2011-08-18T14:18:15Z")

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> [@Floater](#):
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> Bad spelling

> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Misspelling

Guilty. I cite in my defense my distaste at furthering the train wreck, which I am herewith officially asking the mods to close.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/80 "2011-08-18T14:41:38Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> I’m sorry folks, but this makes me sad. I am frequently guilty of inappropriate behaviour, but this is just taunting an obviously mentally ill person.

> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> Guilty. I cite in my defense my distaste at furthering the train wreck, which I am herewith officially asking the mods to close.

[moderating]  
I think if there’s a GQ answer to the OP’s question, we’ve heard it. It’s time to put this thread to bed. If there are different aspects of JFK’s life and/or offspring you’d like to discuss, feel free to open another thread in an appropriate forum.  
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-jfk-secretly-married-in-1947/389071/81 "2011-08-18T14:44:19Z")

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This seems to be well past the realm of factual information, so I’m going to close it.

I am going to note that some of the responses were out of line for GQ, even if you believe a poster to be mentally ill. Please refrain from this in the future.

Colibri  
General Question Moderator

ETA. Beaten to the draw by a wombat!

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