# Was Leonard/aka "Private Pyle" in Full Metal Jacket "special"? Or was there something else going on?

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**Created:** [April 23, 2020, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-leonard-aka-private-pyle-in-full-metal-jacket-special-or-was-there-something-else-going-on/852409 "2020-04-23T05:58:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-leonard-aka-private-pyle-in-full-metal-jacket-special-or-was-there-something-else-going-on/852409/101 "2020-04-27T16:38:32Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I went in for one of the Electronics Rates. ET would count as more credits towards an EE degree. The recruiter basically tricked me and the Navy didn’t care so I said fuck it. I came close to giving it up complete but could only do that as an other than honorable discharge and didn’t want to go that route. EMs job is a lot different from ET as \*\*sps49sd \*\* so well explained.
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> If you think your guaranteed a rate and then they yank the rug out from under you, you would probably be pissed off also.

When I went into the USAF in 88, I was promised the ‘Computer Engineering’ field, midway thru basic they told me there were no openings and i got to be a ‘ground radio ops’ and that I had no choice in it.

Pissed me off - I stuck with it and left in 90 under the “reduction in force” process.

Wonder what my asvab score was ? is there a way to look that up?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-leonard-aka-private-pyle-in-full-metal-jacket-special-or-was-there-something-else-going-on/852409/102 "2020-04-27T16:46:20Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> When I went into the USAF in 88, I was promised the ‘Computer Engineering’ field, midway thru basic they told me there were no openings and i got to be a ‘ground radio ops’ and that I had no choice in it.
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> Pissed me off - I stuck with it and left in 90 under the “reduction in force” process.
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> Wonder what my asvab score was ? is there a way to look that up?

One of my friends had Journalist Mate locked in, when they told him no openings, he was able to get out, but he had his Dad look over the papers before he joined and I guess locked it down well.

Myself, I was a dopey 18 year old who didn’t expect them to lie to me and didn’t see that Nuke changed everything from the ET rate I was originally going to be.

I don’t think there is an easy way to get our ASVAB scores. Mine was from the mid-80s. It is buried in our service records.

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**Author:** ![CGHJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@CGHJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGHJ)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-leonard-aka-private-pyle-in-full-metal-jacket-special-or-was-there-something-else-going-on/852409/103 "2020-04-27T20:39:39Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> LOL. Isn’t that one of the, if not the, MOS in the AF that requires the highest ASVAB to ask for in a recruiting contract? Thought I remembered that one of the satellite tech jobs was thought ridiculously complicated by the military.

I’m amazed his scores were good enough to get him into the Air Force, much less Sat school.

In basic he was General, which means no MOS, you find out what your MOS is when you graduate basic and go to your school. This in itself indicates a lower score, if he had a high enough score he would have been able to pick his job before he went in. Not necessarily a low score, you had to have a high score to pick. You would think that a high enough score to get into sat school would be high enough to pick your job.

I assume after basic a humorous yet disturbing Heller-esque SNAFU of Catch-22 quality landed him in the absolute most ridiculous job the Bureaucracy could manage. I also assume that he failed out pretty quickly and went on to become like a fuel-technician or something.

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