# Was Stewart's/Colbert's rally racist because there were no nonwhites? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 1, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090 "2010-11-01T14:47:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/81 "2010-11-01T20:04:40Z")
Quoth **Magiver** : > [@](#): > > 28% independent, 17% Democrat and 57% Republican. So what you’re saying is that Tea Partiers suck at basic math skills? OK, I could get behind that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/82 "2010-11-01T20:06:42Z")
[![](https://i.imgur.com/w3huU.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/w3huU.jpg) Imagine this woman and her sign at a TP rally. Imagine the glad greetings of joyful acceptance. Her story (Born in Ohio, US Navy, cryptology) available here: [http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dzb1h/followup\_on\_the\_i\_am\_a\_veterani\_am\_an\_americani/](http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dzb1h/followup_on_the_i_am_a_veterani_am_an_americani/) Warning! Reddit! Warning! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/83 "2010-11-01T20:07:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You also didn’t notice it in all the other posts. Like I said, it’s a hijack. > [@brickbacon](#): > > Is this really that complicated? Apparently. The idea is to persuade people to stop giving ratings to the loud and angry people. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/84 "2010-11-01T20:10:42Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > You can call me whatever you want, they’ll always be Teabaggers to me. It was a rhetorical question. You aren’t worth responding to in dialogue if that’s you’re attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/85 "2010-11-01T20:12:33Z")
> [@villa](#): > > I’ll take that as reading “No there weren’t, but I can’t think of a good reason why spending by a Democrat on attempting to save jobs is bad, but spending by a Republican to kill dusky people is good.” If you listened to conservative talk shows during the last years of the Bush administration you’d know that he was constantly castigated over spending. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/86 "2010-11-01T20:13:07Z")
Gee whiz, I didn’t mean to offend your genteel demeaner, Mr. Do You Want Me To Call You A Cocksucker, Rhetorically, That Is. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/87 "2010-11-01T20:13:35Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Or it’s code name for [Tea Party founder holding a niggar sign](http://racistconservatives.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/niggar-sign-tea-party.jpg). Whichever one applies. [Kinda looks like this guy](http://www.examiner.com/tea-party-in-new-york/crash-the-tea-party-founder-outwitted-by-foes). ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/88 "2010-11-01T20:16:50Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Like I said, it’s a hijack. > > Apparently. > > The idea is to persuade people to stop giving ratings to the loud and angry people. Then perhaps he should say, stop watching Keith Olbermann, or Glenn Beck, rather than making is seem like everyone in the media is equally culpable. Why should Rachel Maddow or Shepard Smith suffer because Glenn Beck is an idiot? ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/89 "2010-11-01T20:17:44Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > If you listened to conservative talk shows during the last years of the Bush administration you’d know that he was constantly castigated over spending. If I listened to conservative talk shows my IQ would have dropped around 80 points by now. Where were the demos in DC? Where were the upstanding yeoman folk rallied to arms by the overspending? Why wasn’t Rush leading them to storm the Winter Palace or burn the Reichstag? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/90 "2010-11-01T20:20:57Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Then perhaps he should say, stop watching Keith Olbermann, or Glenn Beck, rather than making is seem like everyone in the media is equally culpable. Why should Rachel Maddow or Shepard Smith suffer because Glenn Beck is an idiot? Because for the most part, the current 24/7 media is more like Beck than Maddow. Maddow and Smith are the exceptions, not the rule. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/91 "2010-11-01T20:24:49Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Gee whiz, I didn’t mean to offend your genteel demeaner, Seems to me that you did or you would apologize for using the term. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/92 "2010-11-01T20:30:24Z")
> [@villa](#): > > If I listened to conservative talk shows my IQ would have dropped around 80 points by now. It’s impossible to have an IQ number in the negative but I should have assumed you had a much higher opinion of yourself given the name calling. > [@villa](#): > > Where were the demos in DC? Where were the upstanding yeoman folk rallied to arms by the overspending? Why wasn’t Rush leading them to storm the Winter Palace or burn the Reichstag? If Bush attempted to ram through the badly planned health care and stimulus package the Tea Party would have been born sooner. The current administration’s policy is “when confronted with a cliff, drive faster”. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/93 "2010-11-01T20:31:28Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Seems to me that you did or you would apologize for using the term. He did not make the term up out of whole cloth you know. It was the term that they used FOR THEMSELVES until they found out it’s connotations. Now, how about you respond to this: > [@](#): > > January 20, 2009 - Obama Inauguration > January 24, 2009 - first tea party protest > > They just found out about fiscal responsibility on January 20, 2009. They really had no idea what was happening before that date. True or false? And please spare me the supposed folks who called in to talk radio during Bush’s term. A few crank callers does not equal public rallies in the streets. Where were the rallies? Do you deny that the whole “Tea Party” phenomenon was created after Obama’s Inauguration? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/94 "2010-11-01T20:31:58Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Gee whiz, I didn’t mean to offend your genteel demeaner, Mr. Do You Want Me To Call You A Cocksucker, Rhetorically, That Is. > [@Magiver](#): > > Seems to me that you did or you would apologize for using the term. I won’t apologize to you for using the term “Teabagger.” I’ll use it as much and as often as I like. You don’t like it? Tough noogies. But when you respond to it with, “Oh yea? Cocksucker!” then who gives a shit if you’re offended or not? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/95 "2010-11-01T20:34:41Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > [Kinda looks like this guy](http://www.examiner.com/tea-party-in-new-york/crash-the-tea-party-founder-outwitted-by-foes). Not really. The guy holding the niggar sign is older, has grey in his beard, and is at least 80 pounds heavier than Mr. Levin. I notice that your linked page also includes an attempt to defame 2 people that the author has absolutely no evidence he can use to link them to anything, and that he proudly bleats about determining Mr. Levin’s private contact information. Will the author be happy when that happens to him? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/96 "2010-11-01T20:40:09Z")
> [@villa](#): > > He “wants” it? Well I guess that is pretty typical of the accuracy I expect from you. I’m glad to hear you say so, because it is quite accurate. The budget Obama wanted Congress to pass includes $1.56 trillion in deficit spending. > [@](#): > > But shouldn’t there have been at least a quarter of the outcry? Something? A peep? Bush’s failure to control spending was one of his biggest failures as a President. Several Dopers, myself included, have mentioned this. The difficulty being that so many Dopers have difficulty with nuance - anything besides fanatic hatred gets lumped under unquestioning support. > [@](#): > > Or alternatively should there have been silence from the right in the face of profligacy, combined with criticisms of those who dared complain as “unpatriotic” That’s interesting. Could you cite me a few of the times that the right wing called people “unpatriotic” for criticizing increased government spending under Bush? The [opposite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12314814&highlight=unpatriotic#post12314814), [sure](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12145586&highlight=unpatriotic#post12145586), [that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11823102&highlight=unpatriotic#post11823102)happens, but not what (AFAICT) you appear to be claiming. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/97 "2010-11-01T20:40:09Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I’m not going to answer to questions posted in vulgar form. [A reminder as to the origin of the term.](http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=Mjk1YmRjNzIxNmUwMTI0ZWYxZWU4OWU2MzFiOWJmNDE=) Note, btw, that the link is incorrect in one respect - the stimulus packages were a Bush Administration idea that didn’t get protested by any organized group until the “Kenyan Muslim” (that’s code too, ya know) took over the White House. There wasn’t a peep from the Foxwatchers about deficit spending, the end of the Clinton surpluses, or the loss of real income for most of the population on Bush’s watch until then, either, as you may recall. Or may not. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/98 "2010-11-01T20:44:24Z")
If nothing else, this entire thread has shown me that the rally was held almost completely in vain. That makes me sad. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/99 "2010-11-01T20:46:55Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > The Black Congressional Caucus is nothing but a bunch of bigots who vote accordingly. :dubious: You do understand, don’t you, that there’s no equivalency between the Black Congressional Caucus and a hypothetical “White Congressional Caucus” or whatever? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090/100 "2010-11-01T20:47:59Z")
> [@Arcite](#): > > Take a look at this photo of Jon Stewart’s and Stephen Colbert’s rally in Washington this past weekend: > > [http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war\_room/2010/10/30/rally\_sanity\_slide\_show/slideshow.html?slide=8](http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/10/30/rally_sanity_slide_show/slideshow.html?slide=8) > > A scant 2 or 3 black faces visible in a sea of hundreds. > > During all the Tea Party gatherings and Glenn Beck’s rally, the media presented us with various photographs showing how overwhelmingly white the crowds were, and we heard a lot from the left about how this was obvious evidence of these groups’ vile racism. > > Was the “Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear” racist because it was almost entirely white? Look, this **is** a joke thread, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-stewarts-colberts-rally-racist-because-there-were-no-nonwhites/559090.md?page=6)