# Was the CBS investigation report quashed? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 26, 2004, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258 "2004-10-26T16:46:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tigers2B1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@Tigers2B1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tigers2B1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/21 "2004-10-28T19:25:45Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > Nuance of the language does not transfer well to the written word. I took from that statement that you wanted me to literally _spell out_ what a TQ was. > > [http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-scheer19oct19,1,654534,print.column?coll=la-util-op-ed](http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-scheer19oct19,1,654534,print.column?coll=la-util-op-ed). > > It isn’t! It’s a Tu quoque! A Logical Fallacy! A fallacious argument! Did I mention that before? It’s an amazingly common tool on these boards, and it is recognized as the fallacy that it is. But it also has a role of pointing out disingenuous outrage. It was in _that_ capacity in which it was introduced. OK - this will be my last attempt since I’m really not inclined. What is the logical fallacy? What is “it.” Your initial post was immediately behind my post - was it something there? Something in one of the other posts? Something you decided to introduce? What? And what is this “logical fallacy” specifically. Please don’t talk about “it” - tell us what “it” is — ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/22 "2004-10-28T19:30:52Z")
> [@Tigers2B1](#): > > OK - this will be my last attempt since I’m really not inclined. What is the logical fallacy? What is “it.” Your initial post was immediately behind my post - was it something there? Something in one of the other posts? Something you decided to introduce? It is something I introduced. Apropo of nothing. > [@](#): > > And what is this “logical fallacy” specifically. Please don’t talk about “it” - tell us what “it” is — I’m not quite clear. Do you want me to explain what a fallacy is? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/23 "2004-10-28T19:32:45Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > It isn’t! It’s a Tu quoque! A Logical Fallacy! A fallacious argument! Did I mention that before? It’s an amazingly common tool on these boards, and it is recognized as the fallacy that it is. **But it also has a role of pointing out disingenuous outrage.** It was in _that_ capacity in which it was introduced. My bolding. That’s pretty weak, but if it makes you feel better to call out the logical fallacy you used before using it, so be it. Perhaps we need a logical fallacy for thinking you can use a logical fallacy in an argument as long as you call yourself on it first. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/24 "2004-10-28T19:36:14Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Perhaps we need a logical fallacy for thinking you can use a logical fallacy in an argument as long as you call yourself on it first. 🙂 > [@Me](#): > > See? This is the kind of trouble one gets into when one brings a logical fallacy into GD. Trust me John, I’m regretting it already. Hey people! As I stated earlier! I brought a fallacy into GD! Please ignore my previous posts! Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/25 "2004-10-28T19:41:53Z")
I think **Tiger** might have thought you accused him of originating a logical fallacy, and that you were calling him on it, not yourself. It was pretty humorous to read that exchange. Who’s on first? ---
**Author:** ![Tigers2B1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@Tigers2B1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tigers2B1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/26 "2004-10-28T20:10:17Z")
So **NurseCarman** was really _tu quoque-ing_ him/herself _all along?_ Well I’ll be damned – _tu quoque-ing_ yourself must look a lot like dancing - ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/27 "2004-10-28T20:13:59Z")
O’Reilly was busted for tuquoqing himself, and that is a unseemly image. Speak of men and their tuquoques no more! ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/28 "2004-10-28T20:15:06Z")
> [@Tigers2B1](#): > > So **NurseCarman** was really _tu quoque-ing_ him/herself _all along?_ - Himself. Like I said. Nuance of language. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tigers2B1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@Tigers2B1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tigers2B1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258/29 "2004-10-28T21:05:28Z")
Just in case you’re planning on traveling like **Shodan** and find yourself in east Mississippi, I feel I should warn you. — I’m from Mississippi and we don’t like that phrase – _tu quoque_. In fact, I’d wager the phrase _‘tu quoque’_ hasn’t been uttered in the ENTIRE state this week. That’s a few million people and a few billion words. And if someone were to say - _“tu quoque”_ - while in Mississippi - they’d get their ass kicked. Why? – “just because we don’t like it” (and that is a good, valid reason in my town) – Oh, and we also didn’t like the word “nuance” either – 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-cbs-investigation-report-quashed/271258.md?page=1)