# Was The First-Ever Interracial Kiss Really In Star Trek? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 1, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297 "2003-03-01T02:30:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![YPOD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@YPOD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YPOD)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2003, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297/21 "2003-03-01T23:11:49Z")
I think there would have been more of a reaction had they had a black male character kiss Yeoman Rand. And is it me, or did she always looked stoned? ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2003, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297/22 "2003-03-01T23:43:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Number Six \* > \*\* > But I disagree with your defenition of interracial being only black-white. Interracial means just what it says: between two people of different races. Kirk kissed Frances Nguyen in “Elaan of Troyius” before “Plato’s Stepchildren”, making that the first interracial kiss on television. And “Elaan of Troyius” is one of the _good_ episodes. \*\* What constitutes “different races”? If you consider Hispanic/Latino a racial group then I suspect the first interracial kiss may have taken place on _I Love Lucy_. ---
**Author:** ![cedric45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@cedric45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cedric45)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297/23 "2003-03-02T03:08:30Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by John Carter of Mars \* \*\*FWIW, I saw the “Kiss Episode” of Star Trek on the occasion of its initial airing. _snip_ Same here in North Carolina. I think this “banning story” is urban legend trying to show how backwards southerners are. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297/24 "2003-03-02T04:58:26Z")
I’m sure there were black-white smooches in the **movies** before 1969. Heck, you could catch a glimpse of Sidney Poitier and what’s-her-face sucking face in the back of the taxicab near the beginning of _Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner_, which came out in 1967. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297/25 "2003-03-02T05:01:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Nanoda \* > **They were pretty sure that version would get used if they did it, so Shatner did it a bunch of times where… his… _pauses!.._ were… all… … outrageous!** Um … has Shatner _ever_ delivered a line where he _didn’t_ overact … with … too … manypauses! ? ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297/26 "2003-03-02T06:17:30Z")
On the ABC daytime drama **One Life to Live** , Ellen Holly, who joined the cast in 1969, played a black secretary who passes for white, and who is in love with her white boss. Whether this led to a kiss and when, I do not know. But whole “passes for white” thing dissipates the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Thomas\_Stearns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Thomas\_Stearns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thomas_Stearns)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297/27 "2003-03-02T10:37:37Z")
I’m with some of the other guys here. What makes an interracial kiss have to be between white-black. I think the other 70% of the world’s population is feeling left out here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-first-ever-interracial-kiss-really-in-star-trek/158297.md?page=1)