# Was there ever a movie that won... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 12, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942 "2013-01-12T05:02:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Qwertol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Qwertol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qwertol)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/1 "2013-01-12T05:02:40Z")
…both Razzie and the Oscar (in different categories or whatever)? ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/2 "2013-01-12T05:08:31Z")
[Wall Street](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094291/awards) won an Oscar for Michael Douglas as Best Actor and a Razzie for Daryl Hannah as Worst Supporting Actress. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/3 "2013-01-12T05:18:37Z")
Not quite what you asked but Sandra Bullock won both the Best Actress Oscar (for _The Blind Side_) and the Worst Actress Razzie (for _All About Steve_) in the same week. And she showed up at both ceremonies to accept her award in person. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/4 "2013-01-12T05:24:08Z")
James Coco was nominated for both the Best Supporting Actor Oscar and the Worst Supporting Actor Razzie for his role in _Only When I Laugh_. Amy Irving was nominated for both the Best Supporting Actress Oscar and the Worst Supporting Actress Razzie for her role in _Yentl_. Neither won any of the awards. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/5 "2013-01-12T08:22:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > James Coco was nominated for both the Best Supporting Actor Oscar and the Worst Supporting Actor Razzie for his role in _Only When I Laugh_. Amy Irving was nominated for both the Best Supporting Actress Oscar and the Worst Supporting Actress Razzie for her role in _Yentl_. Neither won any of the awards. It’s gutsy in-your-face nominations like those remind me how the Razzies have gotten rather dull and safe over the last few years. This year, for example, the latest **Twilight** and Adam Sandler movies got the bulk of the nominations but neither are really that aren’t that interesting as bad movies. The **Twilight** series is pretty much aimed at a specialized–albeit fairly large–audience. Outside of that group, nobody really cares one way or the other about those movies. Adam Sandler’s effort is a typical lowbrow comedy that’s not even worth getting truly upset about. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/6 "2013-01-12T09:02:40Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Not quite what you asked but Sandra Bullock won both the Best Actress Oscar (for _The Blind Side_) and the Worst Actress Razzie (for _All About Steve_) in the same week. And she showed up at both ceremonies to accept her award in person. Halle Berry did this as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/7 "2013-01-12T09:19:54Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Halle Berry did this as well. Well, it wasn’t the same week. She won her Oscar for _Monster’s Ball_ and two years later got a Razzie for _Catwoman_. She went to the Razzie ceremony and accepted her “award” while holding her Oscar in her other hand, wearing the same dress she had to the Oscars and making an exaggerated version of her Oscar speech. [video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLa73N6Rls) ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/8 "2013-01-12T10:35:53Z")
**Bryan** -The OP never mentioned that they had to be the same week. (Sorry, didn’t notice **Nemo** ’s was same week) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/9 "2013-01-12T11:11:30Z")
Actually, the OP asked for “a movie” that won both awards. Citing one movie that won an Oscar, and a totally different movie that won a Razzie is not a valid answer. Especially if they are two years apart. ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/10 "2013-01-12T15:01:11Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > It’s gutsy in-your-face nominations like those remind me how the Razzies have gotten rather dull and safe over the last few years. This year, for example, the latest **Twilight** and Adam Sandler movies got the bulk of the nominations but neither are really that aren’t that interesting as bad movies. The **Twilight** series is pretty much aimed at a specialized–albeit fairly large–audience. Outside of that group, nobody really cares one way or the other about those movies. Adam Sandler’s effort is a typical lowbrow comedy that’s not even worth getting truly upset about. Absolutely. All the Razzies do anymore is focus on the lowest-hanging fruit they can find, and it’s just become tiresome. If you want to mock bad movies, go right ahead, but at least be a little creative about it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/11 "2013-01-12T15:09:45Z")
> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#): > > Absolutely. All the Razzies do anymore is focus on the lowest-hanging fruit they can find, and it’s just become tiresome. If you want to mock bad movies, go right ahead, but at least be a little creative about it. That’s not quite true. The organization has said that it could easily find worse low-budget movies than the ones they nominate. But they intentionally limit themselves to only looking at major big-budget releases. They’re mocking the studios that spend millions of dollars to make movies like _Battleship_, _Breaking Dawn 2_, and _That’s My Boy_. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/12 "2013-01-12T15:13:58Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Halle Berry did this as well. From what I can tell, four people have picked up their Razzies in person: Berry, Bullock, Tom Green, and Paul Verhoeven. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/13 "2013-01-12T15:28:43Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s not quite true. The organization has said that it could easily find worse low-budget movies than the ones they nominate. But they intentionally limit themselves to only looking at major big-budget releases. They’re mocking the studios that spend millions of dollars to make movies like _Battleship_, _Breaking Dawn 2_, and _That’s My Boy_. Yes. There are hundreds of low-budget movies made every year, moreso as the hurdle for indie companies gets lower (with digital filming and production), and there’s nothing to be gained from mocking them. It’s the films with top-drawer talent and seemingly unlimited budgets that turn out to be stinkers - movies those same indie companies could outdo with a fraction of the budget and some good repertory players - that are fun to snipe at. ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/14 "2013-01-12T15:33:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s not quite true. The organization has said that it could easily find worse low-budget movies than the ones they nominate. But they intentionally limit themselves to only looking at major big-budget releases. They’re mocking the studios that spend millions of dollars to make movies like _Battleship_, _Breaking Dawn 2_, and _That’s My Boy_. But that’s not really what I’m talking about. Sure, there are movies made on a shoestring budget that got a one-week release somewhere before going to DVD that are really shitty. That goes without saying, and there’s little point in nominating them. I’m talking about movies that have the air of prestige or that were made by very notable directors or actors that are actually terrible movies, but the Razzies won’t nominate them because that would interfere with their ability to nominate Adam Sandler in every category year after year, or nominate men in drag as actresses. (I don’t even understand why they think it’s so funny to do that. They’re just doing the same thing that the movies they claim to think are awful are doing: looking at a man in a dress and saying, “Ha, we should pretend he’s a woman! Because he’s actually a dude in a dress! Get it?”) Like the **Wall Street** example I gave above. Daryl Hannah is indeed pretty terrible in that movie and worthy of a Razzie nomination. But can you imagine her getting nominated today? Not in a critically acclaimed movie like that, no matter how bad she was. Now, they’re just interested in the biggest, easiest targets possible, and the whole exercise just seems so lazy anymore. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/15 "2013-01-12T16:52:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > From what I can tell, four people have picked up their Razzies in person: Berry, Bullock, Tom Green, and Paul Verhoeven. I don’t follow the Razzies, so I didn’t know about Green or Verhoeven. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/16 "2013-01-12T19:23:53Z")
> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#): > > Like the **Wall Street** example I gave above. Daryl Hannah is indeed pretty terrible in that movie and worthy of a Razzie nomination. But can you imagine her getting nominated today? Not in a critically acclaimed movie like that, no matter how bad she was. Now, they’re just interested in the biggest, easiest targets possible, and the whole exercise just seems so lazy anymore. I see your point. But I think the Razzies also have a legitimate point. You’re essentially asking them to switch their focus from bad movies to overrated movies. It’s a valid target but not the one they’ve chosen. Perhaps the Golden Raspberry organization feels that overrated movies at least deserve some credit for trying to make a good movie even if they failed in the execution. But when Adam Sandler makes a movie, everyone involves knows right from the beginning that the final product will suck but they go ahead and make it anyway - that to me is a worst offense than trying and failing. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-ever-a-movie-that-won/646942/17 "2013-01-13T00:52:00Z")
> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#): > > But that’s not really what I’m talking about. Sure, there are movies made on a shoestring budget that got a one-week release somewhere before going to DVD that are really shitty. That goes without saying, and there’s little point in nominating them. I’m talking about movies that have the air of prestige or that were made by very notable directors or actors that are actually terrible movies, but the Razzies won’t nominate them because that would interfere with their ability to nominate Adam Sandler in every category year after year, or nominate men in drag as actresses. (I don’t even understand why they think it’s so funny to do that. They’re just doing the same thing that the movies they claim to think are awful are doing: looking at a man in a dress and saying, “Ha, we should pretend he’s a woman! Because he’s actually a dude in a dress! Get it?”) I think the Razzies’ dude-in-drag (or fatsuit) nominations are mainly because they’re lazy and tired jokes. The fact there still seem to be at least one of these movies every year is further proof that **Hollywood Is Out of Ideas**.TM - [Fark](http://www.fark.com/farq/farkisms/#Hollywood_is_out_of_ideas) > [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#): > > Like the **Wall Street** example I gave above. Daryl Hannah is indeed pretty terrible in that movie and worthy of a Razzie nomination. But can you imagine her getting nominated today? Not in a critically acclaimed movie like that, no matter how bad she was. Now, they’re just interested in the biggest, easiest targets possible, and the whole exercise just seems so lazy anymore. There was more to Daryl Hannah’s nomination for **Wall Street** than her wooden performance. Hannah, at that time, was a ubiquitous presence in movies despite the fact she had little actual talent beyond looking pretty. Also, **Wall Street** , despite Michael Douglas’ iconic (and over the top) performance, was a perfect example of Oliver Stone’s filmmaking at its most preachy and [anvilicious](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Anvilicious). The movie was a big bag of wind that deserved to be deflated a bit. Anyway, you are correct in saying the Razzies never seem to have the nomination that pokes a finger in the eye of the Hollywood establishment. For example, if the Razzies still had the same attitude today, I can imagine them nominating Russell Crowe for his croaking attempts to sing in **Les Misérables** \* - I actually haven’t seen **Les Misérables** myself so at this time I reserve comment on the film’s quality. However, I have read a number of reviews calling attention to Crowe’s limited vocal range. That and Crowe’s reputation as a pretentious humorless hothead I think would’ve made him a ripe target for the Razzies in years past.