# Was there strong opposition to the UK gun bans? Could the same happen in the US?

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**Created:** [September 19, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-strong-opposition-to-the-uk-gun-bans-could-the-same-happen-in-the-us/464266 "2008-09-19T03:53:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-strong-opposition-to-the-uk-gun-bans-could-the-same-happen-in-the-us/464266/401 "2008-09-28T13:49:26Z")

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NB: Shotguns are not destructive devices, even with a .729 caliber bore.

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**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-strong-opposition-to-the-uk-gun-bans-could-the-same-happen-in-the-us/464266/402 "2008-09-28T16:54:35Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> NB: Shotguns are not destructive devices, even with a .729 caliber bore.

The USAS 12 and “Street Sweeper” are both now considered DDs. Thanks again '94 AW Ban.

[Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about DD’s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destructive_device)

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-strong-opposition-to-the-uk-gun-bans-could-the-same-happen-in-the-us/464266/403 "2008-09-29T01:28:38Z")

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Yeah, my dad has a Striker 12 gauge. It is a “destructive device” and he has a packet of gummint paperwork to prove he legally owns it. I can’t remember the last time anybody shot it; had to have been in the late 90’s. Its classification as a DD is a fine example of government idiocy at work. Except under certain very specialized circumstances, it has absoluely nothing to recommend it over a conventional pump or self-loading shotgun. It’s heavy, has shit ergonomics, takes forever to load, and you have to make sure the drum is wound. If I needed to defend myself with a shotgun, I’d rather have a Remington 870.

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**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-there-strong-opposition-to-the-uk-gun-bans-could-the-same-happen-in-the-us/464266/404 "2008-09-29T13:15:41Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Yeah, my dad has a Striker 12 gauge. It is a “destructive device” and he has a packet of gummint paperwork to prove he legally owns it. I can’t remember the last time anybody shot it; had to have been in the late 90’s. Its classification as a DD is a fine example of government idiocy at work. Except under certain very specialized circumstances, it has absoluely nothing to recommend it over a conventional pump or self-loading shotgun. It’s heavy, has shit ergonomics, takes forever to load, and you have to make sure the drum is wound. If I needed to defend myself with a shotgun, I’d rather have a Remington 870.

I had to sell mine. My nanny state does not allow civilian owned DD’s or class 3’s.

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