Yes, those two are a bad combination, enter the new line of LEVEREVOLUTION ammo. These have soft points that will not fire the round in front of it in the case of rough handling.
The gun in question uses a regular AK mag. This was made to get around the 1994 AW ban.
Breaking news: ten dead in school shooting in Kauhava, Finland. The 22-year old student/gunman used a .22 Walther P22 pistol to kill nine students and himself midday today. This is the second school shooting within a year in Finland, both done using an entry-level .22 pistol after the perp showing off his pistol skills and giving threats in youtube and other online media.
The uproar against issuing college kids with pistols will no doubt escalate following this tragedy and may well lead to changes in the Finnish handgun legislation. The political pressure to do so will be tremendous in this country with a population of only five million.
Why are college kids issued pistols in Finland?
What do you mean “issuing college kids with pistols?”
I believe Toxylon means issuing pistol *permits *to college kids. That said, I don’t think a 22-year old man is considered a kid anywhere in the world.
Scumpup got it. I tried to be creative with a foreign language and apparently failed. Yeah, 22 is not a kid age but a highly typical student age nevertheless.
Why is a college student somehow more likely to go on a shooting spree than anyone of any age at any given work area?
I doubt this will lead to specific restrictions on handgun permits for younger adults or college students. I DO think that it will lead to blanket gun bans that screw everyone, regardless of age.
Death toll at 11 now. The police is in deep shit over this, as they questioned the shooter just yesterday about his online gunslinging videos, and confiscating the gunman’s Walther was discussed but not taken into action. A day later, eleven dead.
Today’s events are almost identical - down to the shooter’s outward appearance - to the Jokela tragedy a year ago (eight dead there, if I remember correctly). These are the only mass shootings ever in Finland, so on the face of it, twenty-year old male students with handgun permits outside organized shooting sports are highly dangerous (a shooting club membership is required to get a handgun permit here, but the membership thing is a joke, as far as weeding out mentally unstable people with a homicidal streak is concerned).
Well, at minimum, the bans won’t screw 11 people.
More people than that die every year of car accidents - should they also ban cars in Finland?
That’ll be up to the Finns to decide, of course. They may share some of the UK’s bizarre prejudices regarding the distinction between cars and firearms.
I suppose one could check Finland’s history and see how they have responded to mass school murder-suicides where the killer used a car as a weapon.
Is there a name for this generic defence ?
False dichotomy, maybe?
No car-aided mass murders here to date - anywhere else? Of all the four incidents in the past ten years where a mentally ill person killed several people at once, licensed handguns were used in three of them (a home-made bomb in the fourth).
Well then I think they should make bombs illegal as well 
Nah - a lot fewer people are killed by bombs in America than cars, so private ownership of bombs should be legal too. Even nuclear ones.
You’ll get my bombs when you pry them from my cold dead hands… What’s left of them anyway.
Argent Towers’ likening cars to guns is not senseless or illogical.
Those who want guns banned say they want it for safety issues. i.e. so people won’t be killed.
Lots more people are killed by cars than by guns. That is an easily proven fact.
If you are concerned that people are being killed, why are you not going after cars which are the larger hazard to public safety?
There are, in fact, many things that cause more deaths than guns cause. Stranger on a Train listed a bunch of them upthread. Why are you not agitating to have those things banned?
Answer: Public safety isn’t really the issue.
Because our society needs cars. It doesn’t need guns.
I was thinking of a more official name. I propose :
‘The AutoMort Retort’
