# Was this man gay?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 1, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557 "2012-05-01T20:59:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557/21 "2012-05-02T13:23:29Z")

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> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#):
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> I get it that all people are not the same, yo. I’m just saying that it doesn’t follow that a “rebellious teenager” would choose church as something to piss off his parents. Drinking, cigs, tattoos, that sort of thing, is the more usual choice, as you might be aware.

Of course it follows. First of all, we’re talking about a fundamentalist church here which would be a problem even for a lot of Christian parents. Anyone even slightly Liberal would hate that. Parents who are anti-Establishment, from any of many non-Christian cultures or Atheist would likely have a problem with any Christian church. My guess is that more parents than not would take issue with that particular church as a choice.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557/22 "2012-05-02T14:15:22Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Of course it follows. First of all, we’re talking about a fundamentalist church here which would be a problem even for a lot of Christian parents. Anyone even slightly Liberal would hate that. Parents who are anti-Establishment, from any of many non-Christian cultures or Atheist would likely have a problem with any Christian church. My guess is that more parents than not would take issue with that particular church as a choice.

Absolutely, if I had joined a church like as a kid my mom would have stroked out. She’s a liberal Catholic.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557/23 "2012-05-02T14:49:50Z")

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I don’t think all rabid homophobes are gay, no. However, it does seem to me that the only thing that explains the specific arguments about “resisting these urges” and so on are homosexual desires, because people at the ends of the Kinsey scale don’t _have_ those urges. There is no temptation luring you into the arms of men if you are a straight man.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557/24 "2012-05-02T15:12:57Z")

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OK you all have beat me down on the church/rebellion issue. I guess I’m more ecumenical than most.

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557/25 "2012-05-02T15:19:46Z")

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Yes, it sounds like he was attracted to men and in denial about it. What a strange argument.

> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#):
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> I get it that all people are not the same,\*\* yo\*\*.

Have you been watching Breaking Bad?😉

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557/26 "2012-05-02T15:31:06Z")

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Here’s the thing. It’s not always about gay sex, but more about sex in general. But it’s hard to preach about how men are lustful and women are temptresses and we’re all going to hell – untill we get married and then it’s a gift from God that we not only should use for reproduction, but enjoy.

So all those dirty, dirty urges we get are just preparation for finding a spouse.

But gay sex, that’s something different. We can’t justify those urges on the grounds of being necessary for reproduction. So “gay” becomes a stand-in for all sorts of lustful urges, the influence of popular media, those damn liberal politicians and anything else the “angry old dude” can fit into a sermon.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-this-man-gay/620557/27 "2012-05-02T16:16:36Z")

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> [@Omega\_Glory](#):
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> Have you been watching Breaking Bad?😉

No, I have NOT. I never watch Breaking Bad. In fact, I hate all television with a white-hot passion and I DECRY the urge anyone … ANYONE I tell you!! has to commune with the sinful, awful, lustful, methamphetamine-laden siren-song of the wicked, evil tube!! _spittle flecks_

I mean, yes, of course I do. :o

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