# Was Yoko Ever Hot?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 13, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847 "2007-01-13T17:46:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/41 "2007-01-14T00:36:10Z")

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[QUOTE=you with the face]  
If the pics presented in this thread represent butt ugliness and near-beastliness then close to 90% of the female population must look so horrifying it’s a wonder any of us can get laid.  
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Exactly. If you use those words to describe at-worst-average-looking women like Yoko, what the hell do you use to describe women who are actually ugly?

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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/42 "2007-01-14T01:53:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Stranger On A Train]  
I have to back up **Frank** on this one. [Michelle Yeoh](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh), on the other hand, could rock my world seven days a week, and twice on Saturday. That is, if she was interested. If anybody wants to pass the message along to her, I’d be grateful…

Stranger  
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Stranger,

I’ll let Michelle know when I see her and when you run into Sung Hi Lee, tell her I’m interested! Here’s a photo just in case you forgot what she looks like.

[http://www.askmen.com/women/galleries/model/sung-hi-lee/picture-2.html](http://www.askmen.com/women/galleries/model/sung-hi-lee/picture-2.html)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/43 "2007-01-14T01:58:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
But I always thought she couldn’t sing.  
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Saying “But I always thought she couldn’t sing” is like saying “Well, I always though the Pacific Ocean had a reasonably large amount of water in it” or “But I always thought John Wayne Gacy would be a less than desirable babysitter.”

Of course Yoko Ono couldn’t sing, and of course she wasn’t good looking, and her art is terrible. She was a hipster scene chick of limited-to-zero talent who happened to fall in love with someone really famous and has ridden that like a jockey stapled to Secretariat.

My favourite video of all time is the early one for “Imagine.” John Lennon sits at the piano and plays and sings, and Yoko Ono… sits there, looking stoned. Why was she there? Who knows? Well, mainly it was Lennon’s own monstrous ego, but can you for an instant imagine, say, Bono just having his wife sit in the middle of the video for “One”?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/44 "2007-01-14T02:00:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
I always thought she was a handsome woman. But I always thought she couldn’t sing. If I had to choose between her and bagpipes, I guess my head would explode.  
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I found Yoko’s singing truly painful and I am a terrible singer. I like good bagpipe music. Think Chieftains.

[QUOTE=Frank]  
Lucy Liu’s not hot either.  
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I must strongly disagree with this, I have always found her very hot. Cute face and great body.

Jim

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/45 "2007-01-14T02:02:45Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
but can you for an instant imagine, say, Bono just having his wife sit in the middle of the video for “One”?  
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Actually she does just sort of sit there in the U2 video for _Sweetest Thing_. Well, I suppose she rides in a car, but same difference.

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/46 "2007-01-14T02:02:56Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
…She was a hipster scene chick of limited-to-zero talent who happened to fall in love with someone really famous and has ridden that like a jockey stapled to Secretariat…  
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If I recall it right, she came from the worst demographic of all, the very affluent slumming it for street cred, which has now bred the execrable Paris Hilton and the Strokes.

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**Author:** ![Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnac_the_Magnificent)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/47 "2007-01-14T02:41:37Z")

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Yoko Ono looks great here:

[http://www.tshirtwatch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/jennifer-love-hewitt-yoko.jpg](http://www.tshirtwatch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/jennifer-love-hewitt-yoko.jpg)

And not bad here:

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/48 "2007-01-14T03:03:52Z")

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I think Yoko was quite attractive in all of these pictures, much more so than the picture of Song Hi Lee… because she didn’t have all of that frickin’ fake shiny makeup on! She looked real, like someone you could actually live with and come home to.

But then I like unconventional Asian women.

Now, as to what she was actually like, and her accomplishments and artistic works, I can’t say.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/49 "2007-01-14T03:09:35Z")

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Never had a problem with her looks. And, as others have said, who the fuck cares.

I do find something about her to be unlikable, offputting; it has to do with positioning herself as Cool Trendy. None of her stuff has hit me as genuinely creative, but she’s perpetually carrying with her the 'tude of “Oh, look at what I’m doing, I’m so TOTALLY with it”. I don’t know what it is… but a strong sense of a calculating person looking at her audience very very often, and that the artistry takes a back seat to applause-generation. If she were somehow in a situation where her music and other creativities would not be experienced by anyone else until after her death, my sense is that she would not create anything. Being “artistic” for her seems to me like a means to an end, and it’s all about celebrityhood.

Can’t defend any of that, it’s just a gut impression formed over time.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/50 "2007-01-14T03:16:30Z")

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Two of the [better pictures](http://specialsections.absoluteelsewhere.net/LennonLoreLegacy/LennonLore%20Graphics/nutopia_pressconf_clr_lrg.jpg) of [Yoko I could find](http://www.pitea-tidningen.se/image.aspx?id=204860&type=5). I wish I could find a picture of her from around 1969.  
Not hot, but not worthy of the 35 years of being called ugly that she got.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/51 "2007-01-14T03:16:55Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
How in the screaming bloody fuck would you know?  
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Aren’t we

Careful examination of my post will reveal to you that I anticipated your question. I’ll repeat myself and extend my answer for anyone who don’t get it on the first reading:

With people in the media, there is the public personna they create, and who they really are. They are not necessarily the same. I do not think Yoko Ono’s public personna was all that hot. I don’t know about her personal self. John Lennon prolly did. That’s what I said in my post. Really, it’s all there. Read it again and see.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/52 "2007-01-14T03:30:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Ukulele Ike]  
_Well, the girls would turn the color of  
An avocado  
When he drove down their street in his  
El Dorado  
He could walk down your street  
And girls could not resist his stare  
 **Pablo Picasso** never got called an asshole  
Not like you_

– The Modern Lovers, 1975  
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Bit of a nitpick, but Picasso DID get called an asshole, [and much worse beside.](http://www.amazon.com/Picasso-Creator-Destroyer-Arianna-Huffington/dp/0380707551/sr=1-3/qid=1168745077/ref=sr_1_3/105-4318813-1709200?ie=UTF8&s=books) Along with tons of anecdotal evidence.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/53 "2007-01-14T03:56:14Z")

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[QUOTE=VoodooDoll]  
. . . but the preformace itself involved her inviting the audience to come up onto the stage and cut her clothing off.  
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I always wondered whether, as she became more and more nude, people brought back the pieces to cover her up.

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**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/54 "2007-01-14T04:09:11Z")

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She has a cute face.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/55 "2007-01-14T04:14:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
Bit of a nitpick, but Picasso DID get called an asshole, [and much worse beside.](http://www.amazon.com/Picasso-Creator-Destroyer-Arianna-Huffington/dp/0380707551/sr=1-3/qid=1168745077/ref=sr_1_3/105-4318813-1709200?ie=UTF8&s=books) Along with tons of anecdotal evidence.  
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Another bit of a nitpick (also related to **Ukulele Ike** ’s post): The Modern Lovers album was actually recorded in 1973, though not released 'til '76. We music geeks live for such minutiae.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/56 "2007-01-14T07:12:07Z")

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From the admittedly little I’ve seen of her (on t.v., not in person), I’d say she looks better now than in the past. I have a vague recollection of seeing her on some awards show over the last few years and thinking that she had turned into a rather ‘handsome’ woman. She seemed softer, more feminine and more attractive to me by far than she ever did during during her Lennon years.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/57 "2007-01-14T11:41:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangosteen]  
Stranger,

I’ll let Michelle know when I see her and when you run into Sung Hi Lee, tell her I’m interested! Here’s a photo just in case you forgot what she looks like.

[http://www.askmen.com/women/galleries/model/sung-hi-lee/picture-2.html](http://www.askmen.com/women/galleries/model/sung-hi-lee/picture-2.html)  
[/QUOTE]

WOW, she is smokin hot

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/58 "2007-01-14T13:10:56Z")

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Yoko One

[Little black dress Yoko](http://www.magnumpr.net/photos/Yoko_Ono.jpg)

[Yoko reclining](http://specialsections.absoluteelsewhere.net/GivePeaceAChance/BedInForPeace/BedIn%20Graphics/yoko_moody.jpg)

She’s got one of those very plain everday faces where nothing really stands out, or comes together. She’s not ugly. she’s just plan.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/59 "2007-01-14T13:23:53Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> How in the screaming bloody fuck would you know?

Moderator interjects (even if somewhat late): HEY! That kind of language may not be directed against another poster in Cafe Society. You can ask “How do you know?” but “How would you know?” and certainly “How in the screaming bloody fuck would you know?” is out of bounds. That’s making comments about the poster, not about the entertainer, and that’s neither nice nor called for.

Cool it.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-yoko-ever-hot/387847/60 "2007-01-14T14:12:32Z")

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[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland]  
I also think that she was a well respected artist before she met John  
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I don’t think so. Very much of the pretencious, "If you don’t ‘get’ my art, it must be because you are too stupid to understand it’ school. One of the things that attracted John to her, supposedly - because he ‘got it’; and they spent lots of time laughing at the ‘squares’ who didn’t.

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