# Washington's "Founding Fathers" **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 15, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/washingtons-founding-fathers/637788 "2012-10-15T16:33:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/washingtons-founding-fathers/637788/21 "2012-10-16T00:47:45Z")
> [@priority](#): > > I know it reeks of conspiracy paranoia, and yet … weirder things have been proven true. > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > This is not true either. C’mon. The [fat kid](http://geektyrant.com/storage/page-images/image007.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1301434427464) in _Stand By Me_ grew up to marry [Rebecca Romijn](http://therealmanslist.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/rebecca-romijn-celebrity.jpg). Admit it, that’s pretty weird. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/washingtons-founding-fathers/637788/22 "2012-10-16T01:24:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > C’mon. The [fat kid](http://geektyrant.com/storage/page-images/image007.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1301434427464) in _Stand By Me_ grew up to marry [Rebecca Romijn](http://therealmanslist.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/rebecca-romijn-celebrity.jpg). Admit it, that’s pretty weird. If the number of fat kids who got skinnier as they aged is even 1% of the number of skinny actresses who claim to have been fat or homely or loners as kids then it’s less weird than deep-fried butter. Or claiming that Ed isn’t Cecil. Now, that’s _ **weird** _. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/washingtons-founding-fathers/637788/23 "2012-10-16T01:33:29Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > There is a tradition that every outgoing president leaves a private note to the incoming one. I’m sure they range anything from ‘Don’t trust that motherfucker Putin’ to ‘Jessica, one of the chefs, makes a killer Apple Crumbler’ > > But damn, whould I love to read a collection of all of them. This happens with British ministers too. After the most recent general election a minor political hoo-haa was caused by the former chief secretary to the treasury, Liam Byrne, left a letter that basically sums up Labour economic management for you. This is compeltely true by the way. The letter said > [@Liam Byrne](#): > > Dear chief secretary, > > I’m afraid there is no money. > > Kind regards - and good luck! > > Liam. To be fair, while I utterly detest the evils of the Labour party, especially the Labour party back then (it’s getting marginally less evil now and could even be decent again given time, although it will probably always be economically inept) they were not the first to do it. There was a note left in the 1960s to James Callaghan (who would eventually become PM but was then going to be chancellor) by the outgoing Tory, whose name I forget, which said > [@Tory](#): > > Good luck, old cock! > > Sorry to leave it in such a bloody mess! Here endeth the lesson. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/washingtons-founding-fathers/637788/24 "2012-10-16T03:53:46Z")
> [@toadspittle](#): > > We should be able to, eventually, I would think. Everything the President and his or her staff creates is required to be saved. (Since it’s Our property.) No, it’s private, tradition is it’s kept that way, and if it wasn’t and ex presidents knew I wouldn’t care what was written on them. There’s no vault with those notes. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/washingtons-founding-fathers/637788/25 "2012-10-16T04:30:10Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > There was a note left in the 1960s to James Callaghan (who would eventually become PM but was then going to be chancellor) by the outgoing Tory, whose name I forget It would have been Reginald Maudling. He was the Conservative Chancellor Callaghan succeeded in 1964. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/washingtons-founding-fathers/637788.md?page=1)