# Wasn’t There a Time? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 25, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897 "2018-09-25T16:41:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897/41 "2018-10-09T16:29:53Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > I am also concerned by a man with a lifetime appointment being a binge drinker in his past – and how recently has that been a part of his life (thirty years- okay, thirty days- not okay)? Wow… talk about missing the point! Nobody gives two shits if Kavanaugh was a card carrying junior frat boy and binge drank a lot in high school. That wasn’t the issue at hand at all. You’ll be hard pressed to find someone under a certain age who’s a college graduate who didn’t have SOME history of binge drinking, unless you confine yourself to a certain set of very rule-following people (we called them “dorks”) who were usually either very strange or very religious. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897/42 "2018-10-09T16:36:11Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > If he didn’t do it why should he step down? If he had stepped down everyone would assume that the charges were true. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Let me repeat that, since you seem not to get the message. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. > [@](#): > > Part of the reason we have Trump is that when you attack every Republican as a dangerous, racist, evil, fanatic people stop listening and a genuinely bad person like Trump will slip through. Have you been willfully blind and deaf to what the Republicans have been saying since Kavanaugh’s confirmation and really to everything they’ve been saying for years? They obviously are dangerous, racist, evil, and fanatic. Trump is a symptom of their disease, not a new and unexpected mutant. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897/43 "2018-10-09T16:52:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **puddleglum** : > > Everyone who knows Kavanaugh that I heard from spoke of him in glowing terms. So, Kavanaugh doesn’t know himself? Because he speaks of himself as a mean drunk who has no respect for either the law or for other people. As for “ruining his life”, or whatever: Don’t forget that Trump and the Republicans in the Senate have ruined my life, too, because they didn’t put me on the Supreme Court, and I don’t even have _any_ rape allegations against me. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897/44 "2018-10-09T17:17:40Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Let me repeat that, since you seem not to get the message. > > Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. Not getting confirmed is not at all the same as stepping down. > Have you been willfully blind and deaf to what the Republicans have been saying since Kavanaugh’s confirmation and really to everything they’ve been saying for years? They obviously are dangerous, racist, evil, and fanatic. Trump is a symptom of their disease, not a new and unexpected mutant. I guess if you have an argument instead of an assertion you would have made it by now. It must be nice that literally everyone who disagrees with you is evil and always has been. If you treat others as good people who have different ways of seeing the world, then you actually have to engage the arguments and that gets so tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897/45 "2018-10-09T17:19:28Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So, Kavanaugh doesn’t know himself? Because he speaks of himself as a mean drunk who has no respect for either the law or for other people. > > As for “ruining his life”, or whatever: Don’t forget that Trump and the Republicans in the Senate have ruined my life, too, because they didn’t put me on the Supreme Court, and I don’t even have _any_ rape allegations against me. I heard Kavanaugh speak of himself as someone who likes beer and is devoted to his family, his faith, and his country. Judging from your posts you probably don’t have what it takes to be a Supreme Court Justice but you may still go on to lead a fulfilling life. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897/46 "2018-10-09T17:37:29Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I reckon every man ever had a statue made of him was one sort of sumbitch or another. This should be carved in stone somewhere. Maybe the pedestal for your statue. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897/47 "2018-10-09T18:31:41Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > **Wasn’t There a Time?** > > I was so sure there was a time when important and accomplished men (and less often women) whom were being considered for important roles within our federal government were expected to live up to the standard of “above reproach”. At times like this, one realizes the need for a ROTFL smiley. We have a long, long tradition in the U.S. of [corrupt and convicted leaders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes) (the relative predominance in recent decades likely reflects a less kindly attitude towards sexually-related offenses and more statutes/diligence in rooting out financial crimes, not that our forebears were so doggone honest and morally upright). ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897/48 "2018-10-09T22:18:35Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > I guess if you have an argument instead of an assertion you would have made it by now. > It must be nice that literally everyone who disagrees with you is evil and always has been. If you treat others as good people who have different ways of seeing the world, then you actually have to engage the arguments and that gets so tiresome. Eh. If you refuse to take the rights’ actual words and actions as a cite, then you should be condemned to read this [entire thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831). Including links. Out loud. To a mirror. It’s a drastic and beyond inhumane punishment but you’ve earned it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wasn-t-there-a-time/821897.md?page=2)