# Watching Enterprise on Netflix, I like it. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 29, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509 "2011-08-29T16:43:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/21 "2011-08-30T01:03:23Z")
They built a fake town and slowed the Klingons transporter by charging a toll of a dime. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/22 "2011-08-30T05:00:16Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > One thing I like is that the stories seem to harken back to the first series in that they dealt with moral themes. Bigotry, the first inklings of the Prime Directive, religious Zealots, etc. And all in the same episode! :dubious: Yeah, I wouldn’t hold up Enterprise’s treatment of that nonsensical, monstrous whim that Archer once had as a positive example. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/23 "2011-08-30T09:28:07Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > They also ignore the superior strength of the Vulcans. There’s an AIDS allegory episode in season two in which a Vulcan casually kicks Archer’s ass. T’Pol doesn’t break out the strength very often that I can recall but you’ll find there’s a variety of things wrong with her… ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/24 "2011-08-30T09:52:10Z")
[QUOTE=infinitii] I MUCH preferred Hoshi. [/QUOTE] That’s **Empress Sato** buddy, show some respect! ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/25 "2011-08-30T12:40:31Z")
> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#): > > I felt \*Enterprise \*did a number of things reasonably well and did a complete hatchet job on a number of other things. Going back to an earlier time with more primitive tech made for some interesting plot complications – you can’t just beam someone out of danger willy-nilly as that technology is just too new and untested to be used all the time. Getting to see more of the dynamics of the Federation’s early charter members was also very interesting and I would have liked the show to place more focus on the evolution of the Federation and early encounters between the Federation, the Klingons, and the Romulans, culminating in the Federation-Romulan War. > > But no, they had to add that stupid temporal war arc which was lame from start to finish and completely unnecessary for the overall storyline – there were no doubt plenty of story arcs they could have explored without ever introducing yet another Big Bad to deal with. And what’s with the Romulans having cloaking devices?!? It is well established in TOS canon that this is a brand new technology when Kirk’s Enterprise battles the Romulan Bird of Prey in “Balance of Terror.” Mistakes like that are kind of unforgiveable in the Trek universe and I think soured a lot of people on the show. Ahhhh I had forgotten the claoking being a new technology. I agree it should have been included. In fact had they been clever Archer could have been the one to delay the development of the cloaking device. The temporal war thing doesn’t bother me much, but too much time travel does get confusing. I see your point. The stories where they encountered other races were more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/26 "2011-08-30T12:51:03Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Yeah, I never got that. One was very attractive, other was fucking manufacured. > > -Joe Well sure. Hoshi is the sweet girl next door. T’Pol is the exotic. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/27 "2011-08-30T12:55:15Z")
I really _wanted_ to like it, but time-travel stories have problems and a season-long time-travel story _arc_ more so. It got a little better when the Andorians showed up, and I’d’ve been happy with storylines about how Terran, Andorians, Vulcans and Tellarites cobbled together an uneasy Federation, but that whole Xindi season is a write-off and if the OP skips it entirely, he won’t have missed anything of value. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/28 "2011-08-30T12:56:56Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > I seem to vaguely recall an episode in which the Enterprise crew helped the inhabitants of a small town on a planet hide from the Klingons by moving the town. I thought this was the stupidest thing I’d ever seen, as it implied that the Klingon’s beamed to places by sight rather than by coordinates. Does my memory have any of that right? Just recently watched that one. I didn’t get that impression. I took it that the move was so minimal, and the Klingon had such disdain for the settlers that they didn’t notice the move. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/29 "2011-08-30T12:58:30Z")
That’s the magic of All-Purpose Contingency Plan B. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/30 "2011-08-30T13:00:44Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I really _wanted_ to like it, but time-travel stories have problems and a season-long time-travel story _arc_ more so. It got a little better when the Andorians showed up, and I’d’ve been happy with storylines about how Terran, Andorians, Vulcans and Tellarites cobbled together an uneasy Federation, but that whole Xindi season is a write-off and if the OP skips it entirely, he won’t have missed anything of value. I see the point. In fact it could have been a feel good story arc to have Archer and crew be key in bringing peace between Vulcans and Andorians and a few other races forming the beginning of the Federation. Whenever the Andorian Captain said Pink Skin, I wanted Archer to hand him a copy of Hustler. Twisted I Know. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/31 "2011-08-30T13:10:38Z")
I liked it. As someone has already pointed out, the temporal war wasn’t good. It was getting better when it was canceled. My problem with Archer was that he acted as though he had leapt into a Starship Captain and didn’t know what to do. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/32 "2011-08-30T13:32:28Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > I seem to vaguely recall an episode in which the Enterprise crew helped the inhabitants of a small town on a planet hide from the Klingons by moving the town. I thought this was the stupidest thing I’d ever seen, as it implied that the Klingon’s beamed to places by sight rather than by coordinates. Does my memory have any of that right? The episode is “Marauders.” The relocation was not to foil the Klingons’ beaming, but to mislead them, _after_ they were on the ground, about the precise location of the “capped-off deuterium well heads,” which could be ignited as a trap… which impressed the Klingons enough to dissuade them from extorting from the colony further, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/33 "2011-08-30T14:03:05Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > They built a fake town and slowed the Klingons transporter by charging a toll of a dime. Slim Pickens sure looked odd in Kilngon make up. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/34 "2011-08-30T15:03:12Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Well sure. Hoshi is the sweet girl next door. T’Pol is the exotic. Only if a barbie doll is considered exotic. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/35 "2011-08-30T15:06:09Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Only if a barbie doll is considered exotic. > > -Joe You’ve never heard “that thing” about Vulcan vaginas have you? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/36 "2011-08-30T15:16:01Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > You’ve never heard “that thing” about Vulcan vaginas have you? The one about the nictating membrane, or the “neck” pinch thingie? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/37 "2011-08-30T15:22:56Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > You’ve never heard “that thing” about Vulcan vaginas have you? She’s smooth plastic? Cuz I could see that being likely. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/38 "2011-08-30T15:37:24Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > She’s smooth plastic? Cuz I could see that being likely. > > -Joe Naw, its copper plated 🙂 And back to the OP. I like the series. I don’t thinks its the bestest ever and a fair number of episodes are bad, but then again I can enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/39 "2011-08-30T17:08:05Z")
The major problem it had was the Bergama. When Manny got in on it, it was pretty good. And individual eps during the first two season were good, funny, interesting, cool, or any combo of that. I liked the characters. Virtually all of them. And they really had the best of any Mirror eps. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509/40 "2011-08-30T17:13:19Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > When Manny got in on it, it was pretty good. Some of his stuff was almost fanfic, though: A sandstorm on Vulcan with nictating membranes and a sehlot for example. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watching-enterprise-on-netflix-i-like-it/594509.md?page=3)