# Watchmen Trailer!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 18, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891 "2008-07-18T00:21:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/121 "2008-07-20T23:33:10Z")
I saw an interview with Snyder on [vh1.com](http://vh1.com) that said it’s definitely R. Too busy to link it right now. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/122 "2008-07-20T23:51:36Z")
[QUOTE=Raygun99] I would bet on a running time of at least 2:10, and maybe more. [/QUOTE] That’s nothing. You need about six times that length. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/123 "2008-07-20T23:56:49Z")
Oh, that’s probably true, but there’s a big difference between a 90 minute movie and a two hour + one. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/124 "2008-07-21T00:20:44Z")
[QUOTE=acsenray] That’s nothing. You need about six times that length. [/QUOTE] No, you don’t. We’re looking at just under 350 pages of comics, even if the Tales of the Black Freighter and Under The Hood were incorporated into the main movie, instead of being done as separate features. We’re not talking about Lord of the Rings - 1200+ pages of prose. And LOTR wasn’t even 12 hours. And it had fewer cuts, which weren’t being adapted into separate features. (I’d guess the total running time of the whole deal will probably be 5 hours, assuming the main feature in fact comes in at 2:10.) Yes, Watchmen is a layered, complex story. But most of the layering and complexity is in visuals and implications - the sort of things that get incorporated into a movie the same way they’re incorporated into a comic book. An educated guess as to the needed running time to adapt it all into a single feature would be ~3 hours. ---
**Author:** ![TJVM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b38774/32.png) [@TJVM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TJVM)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/125 "2008-07-21T01:16:24Z")
> [@bubastis](#): > > The trailer’s amazing, although I can’t see it getting anyone other than fans excited. I can only imagine that Joe Public would be completlry baffled by what he’s seeing… Who are these people? What the hells going on? Whats that thing rising out of the sand at the end? I think is a trailer specifically aimed at existing Watchmen fans. I expect they’ll have trailers aimed at a general audience, too, but there’s no point trying to sell the movie to new people this far in advance. > [@shy guy](#): > > An educated guess as to the needed running time to adapt it all into a single feature would be ~3 hours. That sounds about right to me. What I’m hoping is that they’ll let Snyder put out an extended DVD version that’s more comprehensive. Judging from the recent EW story, he’s got the footage to do it, but he’ll have to cut some stuff out to get the running time down to a theater-friendly length. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/126 "2008-07-21T01:24:10Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] Second, in the prison photo **bubastis** linked to, Nite Owl looked like a young man in good shape, not the middle aged has-been he is in the comic. It seems to me they’re undermining one of the most powerful and interesting ideas of the comic: What would happen if time and aging were incoporated into a superhero universe. [/QUOTE] Maybe so, maybe no. From [Entertaiment Weekly:](http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213273_4,00.html) > [@](#): > > Patrick Wilson (Angels in America) came aboard first and immediately started packing on weight to play the potbellied, middle-aged Nite Owl. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/127 "2008-07-21T01:25:07Z")
That’s fine with me. Nothin’ wrong with some DVD-only goodies. I’m still psyched. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/128 "2008-07-21T04:37:33Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] Maybe so, maybe no. From [Entertaiment Weekly:](http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213273_4,00.html) We’ll see. [/QUOTE] That’s a good sign. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/129 "2008-07-21T04:39:19Z")
About some points made earlier in the thread: 1. The first thing I noticed was how precisely Snyder duplicates so many of the iconic panels - given that pretty much every panel is iconic. I didn’t pull out the novel to compare them side by side, but by memory alone, they’re damn close enough. 2. It is indeed Nixon on the televisions. Pausing confirms it. 3. I’ve always thought the actors looked too young in the stills and the same goes for this trailer. Ozy looks like a _kid_. But if there is truth that Patrick Wilson packed on some pounds, I will have some faith that maybe they can look passably middle-aged. Although Billy Crudup as Doctor Manhattan looks a bit older than “goddamned _thirty_!” (of all the people who could get away with looking young… :p). ETA - 4. I believe there is a reflection in the glass of a woman - Janey, one presumes - along with a guy before Jon gets all dissolved. So that lends hope she isn’t cut out completely. At 1:33, who is Rorschach beating up? Is it Moloch or the guy with the dogs? Hard to tell on pause, but I think it looks more like the latter, which makes me think the film retains one of the more disturbing back-stories in the book. This film could freak a lot of people out. I hope! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/130 "2008-07-21T04:44:47Z")
(Missed edit) The more I think about it the more I’m not sure if **Cisco** isn’t right. Watchmen always seemed like a work that belonged to its medium, if that makes sense. Maybe that’s just my pessimism. I guess we’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/131 "2008-07-21T11:36:37Z")
[QUOTE=Rachael Rage] At 1:33, who is Rorschach beating up? Is it Moloch or the guy with the dogs? [/QUOTE] My guess is Moloch - bald, with a waistcoat on, in what looks like an apartment. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/132 "2008-07-21T11:44:54Z")
Varga-esqe pin-up of Carla Gugino as Silk Spectre (mildly NSFW -remove space) [http://www.aintitcool.com/node/](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/) 37551 Brian ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/133 "2008-07-22T23:59:45Z")
Another photo prop - [group photo of original 1940s Minutemen.](http://io9.com/photogallery/watchmenagain/1002876354?viewSize=thumb1280x1280) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/134 "2008-07-23T00:28:43Z")
[QUOTE=TJVM] That sounds about right to me. [/QUOTE] FTR, it was me that said that, not shy guy. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/135 "2008-07-23T01:18:20Z")
But will this movie catch the attention of a non-comic fan? Why should they care about a nude glowing guy, or a guy with an inkblot face? People know Superman and Spider-man, not these characters. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/136 "2008-07-23T01:20:07Z")
[QUOTE=Love Rhombus] But will this movie catch the attention of a non-comic fan? Why should they care about a nude glowing guy, or a guy with an inkblot face? People know Superman and Spider-man, not these characters. [/QUOTE] How many people outside of comic book fandom know Hellboy? ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/137 "2008-07-23T02:31:05Z")
Um. I suppose I probably don’t count because I’ve been posting in both this thread and the Dark Knight thread, but I didn’t know Hellboy until I saw the movie, and I’ve never managed/been interested enough to pick up the comic. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/138 "2008-07-23T03:36:09Z")
[QUOTE=shy guy] Thinking about it, I suppose a lot of the more minor stuff wouldn’t be difficult to include in a long movie. I’m wondering if we’ll see some stuff like the death of Dollar Bill. I do hope they preserve all of the interaction between Silk Spectre and her mother. [/QUOTE] Considering that they’ve cast someone as Dollar Bill (Bill Payne, per IMDb) , I imagine they’ll have to. The death itself wasn’t in the comic book, but was only referred to as part of Night Owl’s memoirs. Hard to imagine how they can include that stuff (some of which is pretty important to the understanding of the plot) without a fair bit of added dramatization. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/139 "2008-07-23T14:06:31Z")
[hijack to ask trivial-but-nagging question that I may have asked before and can’t remember the answer to - darn it] How do you pronounce “Veidt”? Veet? Vate? Vight? [/hijack to ask trivial-but-nagging question that I may have asked before and can’t remember the answer to - darn it] ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/140 "2008-07-23T14:33:13Z")
I think this might be a good flick, but will do poorly at the box office. Something that disturbs me, though, is the talk in one of the links listed above about launching a franchise. I think I might fall into the fanboy camp in opposing that one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891.md?page=8)