# Watchmen Trailer!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 18, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891 "2008-07-18T00:21:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/161 "2008-07-24T08:09:30Z")
[QUOTE=SisterCoyote] “Under The Hood” is going to be a bonus feature on the “Tales of the Black Freighter” DVD which is supposed to be released at the same time the movie comes out. If I understand correctly, that is. [/QUOTE] Hrem? The whole memoir, or just the selections from the book? While I know it’s unlikely, I desperately hope for the former, if for no other reason than I’d like a fuller understanding of Moore’s alternate timeline. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/162 "2008-07-24T10:54:08Z")
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th] The German way, with a long ‘‘I’’ – almost like ‘‘Fight’’ but with a sort of ‘‘d’’ and ‘‘t’’ hybrid sound thrown in for the t. I took German once, a long time ago, and the one thing that always sticks with me is the way they pronounce words. To this day I still can’t help but pronounce ‘‘Wagner’’ as ‘‘Fawgner’’ … [/QUOTE] Great, so we’ve got one vote for Veet, one for Vate, and one for Vight. Now we’re getting somewhere! ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/163 "2008-07-24T11:15:35Z")
[QUOTE=Justin Credible] Great, so we’ve got one vote for Veet, one for Vate, and one for Vight. Now we’re getting somewhere! [/QUOTE] So! My Veet/Vate/Vight mumbling-to-myself solution isn’t sounding so silly anymore, is it??? Well, actually - yeah, it still sounds silly… ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/164 "2008-07-24T12:54:31Z")
If they do “Under the Hood” like a special on the Biography network or a film-school documentary, it could play properly. Some “archival” footage, a few talking heads interviews, et cetera. “Tales of the Black Freighter” would need to be a Saturday Morning cartoon series, with maybe three half-hour episodes to tell that particular story. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/165 "2008-07-24T13:08:56Z")
Anyone else notice that Osterman’s holding the watch in the chamber? Sweet. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/166 "2008-07-24T13:54:06Z")
I re-read it last night. Still holds up and I’m still noticing things for the first time. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/167 "2008-07-24T13:57:07Z")
[QUOTE=DrFidelius] If they do “Under the Hood” like a special on the Biography network or a film-school documentary, it could play properly. Some “archival” footage, a few talking heads interviews, et cetera. “Tales of the Black Freighter” would need to be a Saturday Morning cartoon series, with maybe three half-hour episodes to tell that particular story. [/QUOTE] One of the links above said the Under the Hood would be a faux documentary, much as you suggest. I cannot tell if the TotBF will be live action or a cartoon. Live action would seem costly for a straight to DVD add on. Plus, I’m not sure how interesting it would really be. If you take it away from the parallel of the Watchmen narrative…it’s just a pirate story… ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/168 "2008-07-24T14:15:22Z")
[QUOTE=DrFidelius] “Tales of the Black Freighter” would need to be a Saturday Morning cartoon series, with maybe three half-hour episodes to tell that particular story. [/QUOTE] I suspect that Tales will be done as one 75 minute cartoon which would work out to roughly three “half-hour” episodes (since “half-hour episodes” typically are twenty-two minutes). That’s just a guess based on how WB is doing direct to video comic book stuff lately. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/169 "2008-07-24T14:21:23Z")
[QUOTE=Just Some Guy] I suspect that Tales will be done as one 75 minute cartoon which would work out to roughly three “half-hour” episodes (since “half-hour episodes” typically are twenty-two minutes). That’s just a guess based on how WB is doing direct to video comic book stuff lately. [/QUOTE] At some point, I imagine WB will have enough content to create the DC Comics channel. I’ve long believed this is the next logical step for WB. Doing it your way would certainly advance that goal. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/170 "2008-07-24T14:25:05Z")
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th] Not reading this thread in case of spoilers… just wanted to say I am on Chapter IV of _The Watchmen_ right now and it is making me really excited for the movie. [/QUOTE] Maybe I will be accused of being too anal, but it is just _Watchmen_, no “the”. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/171 "2008-07-24T14:32:18Z")
[QUOTE=Justin Credible] Great, so we’ve got one vote for Veet, one for Vate, and one for Vight. Now we’re getting somewhere! [/QUOTE] Awesome. I propose “Viddity.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/172 "2008-07-24T15:20:50Z")
Here’s the cold water. From this week’s cover article in _Entertainment Weekly_: > [@](#): > > Sure there have been changes. The catastrophic climax is different. Now we can sit here and talk about how great it is that Snyder has kept all these things from the book. But if he’s changed the ending, how faithful will it be? Night Owl: “My God, Adrian, when are you going to launch this evil plan?” Ozymandius: “You can’t stop me, Dan. I’m going to launch it in just thirty eight minutes.” Night Owl: “Then we still have thirty seven minutes to save the world. Watchmen Assemble!” Dr Manhattan, Rorschach, Silk Spectre, and Comedian step out and assume fighting poses. Ozymandius: “Comedian! You’re alive? I though I had killed you.” Comedian: “That was just a clone Dr Manhattan made to fool you. We’ve been secretly working together all along to thwart your evil doings.” Dr Manhattan: “Yes, Adrian, I’ve realized now how much I love the world, especially America. My wife and I have reconciled and we’re going to have a baby.” Silk Spectre: “Thereby proving that love conquers all and laying the groundwork for a sequel.” Rorschach: “Hey, I’m feeling sane now and the President gave me a full pardon.” Night Owl: “So the only thing left to do is defeat Ozymandius in a spectacular special-effects battle. Fire up the lasers and get those explosions ready!” ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/173 "2008-07-24T16:27:52Z")
Or it’s an alien invasion but not in New York, but Akron. ---
**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/174 "2008-07-24T17:08:15Z")
**Little Nemo** , I’m so going to hell for laughing at that! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/175 "2008-07-24T17:09:28Z")
We can always hope. I’ve always said, and heard, “Vite.” ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/176 "2008-07-24T17:17:12Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] Here’s the cold water. From this week’s cover article in _Entertainment Weekly_:Now we can sit here and talk about how great it is that Snyder has kept all these things from the book. But if he’s changed the ending, how faithful will it be?" [/QUOTE] I’m ok with such a change. That ending ( **olivesmarch4th** read no further!) was one of the two weaknesses from the book. I get that the groundwork was properly laid to perform such a stunt. The technology was an offshoot of Dr. Manhattan and the researchers were an ongoing subplot. But I never really thought it would translate to a mainstream audience without seeming cheesy (in part because even as a comic fan it was out off place to me.) FYI- the other weakness for me was catching the bullet. NO groundwork could be laid for that. It was simply a terrible part of the book. [hijack] Would Watchmen have been a truer “realistic” look at Superheroes had Dr. Manhattan not been in the series? [/hijack] ETA- I always read it as V-8. ---
**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/177 "2008-07-24T17:39:01Z")
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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/178 "2008-07-24T22:13:43Z")
[QUOTE=middleman] [hijack] Would Watchmen have been a truer “realistic” look at Superheroes had Dr. Manhattan not been in the series? [/hijack] [/quote] Dr. Manhattan is necessary to show the frailties of the other heroes, and how they work and fight and love and struggle to overcome their very human weaknesses to try to Do The Right Thing. Without him, the book would lack a lot of its humanity, because the reader compares the other heroes to him - and in the end, even Rorschach is a more sympathetic and genuinely human character than Manhattan. > [@](#): > > ETA- I always read it as V-8. Another vote for “Vite”. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/179 "2008-07-24T22:32:01Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] Ozymandius: “You can’t stop me, Dan. I’m going to launch it in just thirty eight minutes.” [/QUOTE] 😃 Gold. This would be a perfect sig, if I used one. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891/180 "2008-07-24T23:44:52Z")
_ **I AM DISAPPOINTED, VEIDT!** _ [QUOTE=SisterCoyote] Dr. Manhattan is necessary to show the frailties of the other heroes, and how they work and fight and love and struggle to overcome their very human weaknesses to try to Do The Right Thing. Without him, the book would lack a lot of its humanity, because the reader compares the other heroes to him - and in the end, even Rorschach is a more sympathetic and genuinely human character than Manhattan. [/QUOTE] Agreed. Dr. Manhattan is there to show how disconnected someone with real superpowers would become from humanity and the earth. Honestly, both Veidt and Kovacs show SOME of this. Veidt through his training and intelligence becomes so distant from humanity that he can envision killing millions as just a point on a balance sheet and Kovacs because, well, he’s mad. Even the Comedian is more human than those two in terms of acknowledging the world as filled with real people. So, in terms of ‘connectedness’… Nite Owl Silk Spectre The Comedian Veidt Kovacs Dr. Manhattan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/watchmen-trailer/456891.md?page=10)