# Water found on the MOON, guys!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 24, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375 "2009-09-24T14:54:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/1 "2009-09-24T14:54:57Z")

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Dude.

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> Shattering a long-held belief that Earth’s moon is a dead and dry world, a trio of spacecraft uncovered clear evidence of water and hydrogen-oxygen molecules throughout the lunar surface…“Perhaps the most valuable result of these new observations is that they prompt a critical reexamination of the notion that the moon is dry. It is not,” Lucey said…Evidence for a second and potentially richer source of water may come next month.

[Link.](http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/09/23/moon-water.html?campaign=dsc-int-hp-dl-dn)

Awesome!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/2 "2009-09-24T15:08:31Z")

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Moon Water! Imaging the marketing possibilities! Take _that_, Pellegrino!

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/3 "2009-09-24T16:54:07Z")

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Well, check this out:  
one of my college students was writing about reasons to legalize pot, and she claims that it’s being grown on several other planets in our system as well as this one!  
Dang…who knew? All that pot must means lots of water out there in our solar system.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/4 "2009-09-24T17:12:32Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Moon Water! Imaging the marketing possibilities! Take _that_, Pellegrino!

You know what I just realized? Ranul is “lunar” spelled backwards!

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/5 "2009-09-24T17:39:00Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Moon Water! Imaging the marketing possibilities! Take _that_, Pellegrino!

\*Thought you were being an inconsiderate poseur with your Fiji water? Think again - each litre of Moon[sub]2[/sub]O requires several thousand litres of hydrazine and LOX rocket propellant to ship back to Earth. Why not use it to wash down your SUV and _really_ piss off those tree-huggers?

**Nothing says I don’t give a shit like Moon[sub]2[/sub]O!**\*

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**Author:** ![the\_first\_supraliminal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@the\_first\_supraliminal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_first_supraliminal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/6 "2009-09-24T17:43:24Z")

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What bothers me is that all these expensive scientists studied the moon rocks that had water and dismissed it out of hand. Whatever happened to data driving conclusions?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/7 "2009-09-24T17:44:31Z")

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And “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” takes another step towards reality.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/8 "2009-09-24T18:06:15Z")

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I know this is a ridiculous point to focus on, but one of the scientists is named “Jessica Sunshine”? Really?

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/9 "2009-09-24T18:33:41Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I know this is a ridiculous point to focus on, but one of the scientists is named “Jessica Sunshine”? Really?

I posted this link on my Facebook, too, and that was the point that one of my friends zoomed in on as well.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/10 "2009-09-24T18:43:30Z")

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> [@Colophon](#):
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> \*Thought you were being an inconsiderate poseur with your Fiji water? Think again - each litre of Moon[sub]2[/sub]O requires several thousand litres of hydrazine and LOX rocket propellant to ship back to Earth.

Darling, all you need to get MoonH2O back to earth is a big ol’ catapult.

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**Author:** ![Nom\_de\_Plume](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/85f322/32.png) [@Nom\_de\_Plume](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nom_de_Plume)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/11 "2009-09-24T18:48:59Z")

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Hey, how come the US astronauts never found the water there?

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/12 "2009-09-24T18:51:32Z")

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> [@Nom\_de\_Plume](#):
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> Hey, how come the US astronauts never found the water there?

The director thought it’d be gilding the lily.

Well, how’re you doin’, Mr. Aldrin, I’m a big f-- OW!!!

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/13 "2009-09-24T19:18:17Z")

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Hmmm…being a non-science guy, would “Holy Shit” be too strong of a reaction to this news? It sure sounds important. I’m guessing the hydrogen and/or oxygen could be useful as potential fuel/resupply for manned exploration elsewhere?

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/14 "2009-09-24T19:22:41Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I know this is a ridiculous point to focus on, but one of the scientists is named “Jessica Sunshine”? Really?

And I just watched a porno starring Eugenia Thorstein. What a crazy world!

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/15 "2009-09-24T20:11:00Z")

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> [@the\_first\_supraliminal](#):
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> What bothers me is that all these expensive scientists studied the moon rocks that had water and dismissed it out of hand. Whatever happened to data driving conclusions?

Bah..

I wouldnt jump for joy just yet.

First itsa paina in the assa to landa ona the moona to getta watera and takea offa againa.

Second, if they found run of the mill concrete/cementt on the moon, they would think they had hit the motherload when comes to water.

When you see concrete, do you think “shit, look at all that water” ?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/16 "2009-09-24T20:16:50Z")

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> [@Nom\_de\_Plume](#):
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> Hey, how come the US astronauts never found the water there?

One possibility is that there wasn’t any when they came in. But there was after they left. I wouldn’t drink that, if I were you.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/17 "2009-09-24T20:21:29Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I’m guessing the hydrogen and/or oxygen could be useful as potential fuel/resupply for manned exploration elsewhere?

No. You’d be better off just using two rockets from Earth, and using one as a tanker to refuel the other once you’re in orbit.

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**Author:** ![LunarPlexus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LunarPlexus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LunarPlexus)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/18 "2009-09-24T20:35:01Z")

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We’re halfway to opening a bar on the moon. You can get a drink now, but the place still has no atmosphere.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/19 "2009-09-24T20:42:17Z")

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> [@the\_first\_supraliminal](#):
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> What bothers me is that all these expensive scientists studied the moon rocks that had water and dismissed it out of hand. Whatever happened to data driving conclusions?

Did you read the article. The original containers _leaked_ and so the experiment was contaminated.

And double check the article…it speaks about water and hydroxyl. With oxygen in the regolith being tightly bound up with Mg, Al etc. my money would be on more hydroxyl than water in any form we’re going to find immediately usable.

Think of it this way would you really want to strip mine a football field to a depth of 5 inches to get about 270 kg of water? That would fit a 2x2x2’ box.\*

The moon is a desert

This math void in Quebec, Virginia and the District of DC, ask your local chemist, astrobiologist or planetary geologist if it’s right for you

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/water-found-on-the-moon-guys/511375/20 "2009-09-24T21:32:49Z")

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And the ghost of George Adamski smiles…

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