# Wave of anti semitic violence **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 28, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040 "2017-02-28T16:37:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/21 "2017-02-28T18:46:21Z")
I mean it’s not like Israel Goverment’s are right wing and engage in sate sponsored violence … ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/22 "2017-02-28T19:26:14Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > I mean it’s not like Israel Goverment’s are right wing and engage in sate sponsored violence … Sooooooo, are you advocating FOR toppling gravestones in US Jewish cemeteries??? Because that would be wrong, right? RIGHT? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/23 "2017-02-28T19:32:54Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > I mean it’s not like Israel Goverment’s are right wing and engage in sate sponsored violence… It’s not like you have any evidence to support such wild speculation that they might be behind these anti-semitic attacks. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/24 "2017-02-28T19:33:38Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > I may have just grossly underestimated the amount of anti-semites we have across the country. I think you also grossly overestimated left-wing desire to make Trump look bad. That’s one thing that the president does a great job of on his own, there’s no need for anyone to lend a hand. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/25 "2017-02-28T20:05:56Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It’s not like you have any evidence to support such wild speculation that they might be behind these anti-semitic attacks. But if you live by the sword. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/26 "2017-02-28T20:08:12Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > But if you live by the sword. …you die by the non sequitur? ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/27 "2017-02-28T20:40:43Z")
Gah, I was having this conversation about “Why now?” with my parents this morning, and my dad refused to believe that Bannon and Brietbart are antisemitic. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/28 "2017-02-28T20:43:06Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Gah, I was having this conversation about “Why now?” with my parents this morning, and my dad refused to believe that Bannon and Brietbart are antisemitic. :smack: That doesn’t even need to be part of the explanation – what’s important is that white supremacists believe that Trump/Bannon and co are empowering and validating their positions (whether or not they are intending to), which is clear from the statements of prominent white supremacists like David Duke. If neo-Nazis suddenly believe that the country is behind them, then they’re going to do a lot more Nazi-ish stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/29 "2017-02-28T21:23:06Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Gah, I was having this conversation about “Why now?” with my parents this morning, and my dad refused to believe that Bannon and Brietbart are antisemitic. :smack: Probably because they aren’t. One of the worst things that can happen to a partisan is when he starts believing his own propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/30 "2017-02-28T21:28:20Z")
With phones being randomly checked by Spicer to limit “leaks” how would we know if there is WH involvement or not? Generating fear before you ask for a Huge jump in defense spending…? I could see someone doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/31 "2017-02-28T22:28:16Z")
As disgusting as the bomb threats and cemetery vandalism are, at least the U.S. has not experienced physical assaults on Jews [to the extent seen in Europe](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/jewish-men-attacked-paris-hacksaw-fingers-anti-semitic-bondy-france-police-kippas-a7599516.html). And those sorts of incidents can’t be blamed on Trump. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/32 "2017-02-28T23:07:25Z")
Not to mention the open prison for the stateless that is Gaza. Which also can’t be blamed on Trump. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/33 "2017-02-28T23:14:56Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) [has an article detailing an uptick in hate and hate groups](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2017/year-hate-and-extremism) in the past year. The article is not so subtle in attributing the rise of right-wing hate and the rise of Trump is not mere coincidence. I’ve seen their list of “hate crimes” and it’s underwhelming. I’m far from convinced there’s been any upsurge in hate crimes. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/34 "2017-02-28T23:15:18Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > And those sorts of incidents can’t be blamed on Trump. While true, it seems somewhat unrelated to the issue of an increase in anti-Semitic incidents in the US. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/35 "2017-02-28T23:17:57Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) [has an article detailing an uptick in hate and hate groups](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2017/year-hate-and-extremism) in the past year. The article is not so subtle in attributing the rise of right-wing hate and the rise of Trump is not mere coincidence. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You’re probably not the only one. That part of American history isn’t over, unfortunately. Sundown towns still exist – Vidor, Texas is one of the more prominent examples, but there are probably more such small towns that manage to keep their whites-only informal practices quiet and under the radar scattered throughout the country. > > I speak about David Duke and Louisiana, and LA/TX border places like Vidor, because that’s where I grew up. Racism and bigotry are far from over in being significant influences in culture, society, and politics, even if that influence is less than before. David Duke got ONLY 3% of the vote in one of our most conservative states. Which proves the overwhelming majority of Louisianans who voted for Trump wanted nothing to do with Duke (who finished 7th out of 8 candidates). ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/36 "2017-02-28T23:20:36Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > ``` > The thought crossed my mind this morning that some of this could be attributed to left wing groups trying to sabotage the right. I am in no way conviced that this is happening but I am begaining to suspect it. How far out would this be? Just based on how this is affecting people it could be an effective anti right strategy if the radicals felt desperate enough. > > ``` [Others](http://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2017/02/28/President-Donald-Trump-to-state-AGs-Pennsylvania-Josh-Shapiro-Attacks-on-Jewish-sites-could-be-to-make-others-look-bad/stories/201702280270) might agree with you on this… > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump on Tuesday told attorneys general from across the country that the recent rash of attacks and threats against Jewish institutions was “reprehensible” but suggested that it might not only reflect anti-Semitism, according to Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro. > > Sometimes, the president said, “the reverse can be true,” Mr. Shapiro said, recalling the conversation at the White House. “Someone’s doing it to make others look bad.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/37 "2017-02-28T23:25:25Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > David Duke got ONLY 3% of the vote in one of our most conservative states. > > Which proves the overwhelming majority of Louisianans who voted for Trump wanted nothing to do with Duke (who finished 7th out of 8 candidates). ONLY 50,000 voters in a small state that has one of the highest percentage of black people in the country… which extrapolates to millions of Americans, even if Louisianans are twice as white supremacist, on average (even taking into account all the black people!) as the rest of the country. _Millions of Americans with white supremacist views_. And that’s supposed to make us feel _good_?!? ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/38 "2017-02-28T23:30:24Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > ONLY 50,000 voters in a small state that has one of the highest percentage of black people in the country… which extrapolates to millions of Americans, even if Louisianans are twice as white supremacist, on average (even taking into account all the black people!) as the rest of the country. > > _Millions of Americans with white supremacist views_. And that’s supposed to make us feel _good_?!? Maybe they are 50 times more or 200 times more supremacist. I live in Ca, and I know we have them here but they are a tiny minority. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/39 "2017-02-28T23:34:38Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > Maybe they are 50 times more or 200 times more supremacist. I live in Ca, and I know we have them here but they are a tiny minority. Anything’s possible, but in my experience, there isn’t nearly as big a difference in the relative number of racists between northern and southern states as the stereotypes might suggest. And the vast majority don’t generally make their views known in public or to people who aren’t very close friends or family, in my experience, no matter where they live. Whatever the exact numbers, there are very obviously more than enough to perpetrate violent, threatening, and damaging incidents around the country, especially if they feel their views are suddenly more empowered and validated (as they do, according to white supremacist leaders). Isn’t the simplest explanation that white supremacists who feel more empowered and validated are more likely to do white supremacist things? ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/40 "2017-02-28T23:37:30Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > [Others](http://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2017/02/28/President-Donald-Trump-to-state-AGs-Pennsylvania-Josh-Shapiro-Attacks-on-Jewish-sites-could-be-to-make-others-look-bad/stories/201702280270) might agree with you on this… Or, or, OR, the Trumpsters could be doing it so they can blame it on the lefties for doing it as a false flag in order to blame the alt-right! Has anyone thought of THAT? HUH? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040.md?page=3)