# Wave of anti semitic violence **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 28, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040 "2017-02-28T16:37:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/81 "2017-03-05T16:53:18Z")
People who actually bother to keep track of such crimes – including the FBI – see an increase recently. The crimes may be no wiser, but they are happening more now. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/82 "2017-03-05T20:09:00Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > People who actually bother to keep track of such crimes – including the FBI – see an increase recently. > > The crimes may be no wiser, but they are happening more now. Cite? (Always wanted to say that.) The SPLC will not be an acceptable source. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/83 "2017-03-05T23:36:25Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Cite? (Always wanted to say that.) > > The SPLC will not be an acceptable source. Why not? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/84 "2017-03-06T00:03:03Z")
How about the [NYPD?](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hate-crimes-rise-55-pre-cent-new-york-city-surge-in-anti-semitism-jewish-president-donald-trump-bill-a7610911.html) Or maybe New York City is a little too Jewy to be an unbiased source. I dunno. How about the [CPD?](http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/news/ct-sta-hate-crimes-increase-st-0305-20170303-story.html) Chicago’s a hotbed of corruption, though. Their newspapers are probably run by a bunch of leftists. The FBI report for 2016 isn’t out yet. If only there was a nonprofit of some sort that tracks and aggregates reports of this kind. If only. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/85 "2017-03-06T00:20:32Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Cite? (Always wanted to say that.) > > The SPLC will not be an acceptable source. What’s two plus two? And “four” is not an acceptable answer. ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/86 "2017-03-06T06:45:05Z")
> **[Vandals not responsible for dozens of tipped graves at Jewish cemetery in...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2017/03/05/vandals-not-responsible-for-dozens-of-tipped-graves-at-jewish-cemetery-in-brooklyn-management-says/)** > > Police and the general manager of a Jewish cemetery in Brooklyn said that 42 fallen headstones were not caused by vandals, saying Sunday that the memorials had naturally tipped over due to age &mda… > [@](#): > > Police and the general manager of a Jewish cemetery in Brooklyn said that 42 fallen headstones were not caused by vandals, saying Sunday that the memorials had naturally tipped over due to age — though some elected officials were calling for an investigation, anyway. > > “It definitely was not vandalism,” Marisa Tarantino, general manager of the Washington Cemetery on Bay Parkway in Midwood, told reporters. > > **“The older sections, as the stones wear, they do fall over or are unstable,” she continued. “What we do is we lay them across the grave to keep them memorialized rather than taking (them) away.”** > > A police spokesman agreed. > > **“There’s no evidence of vandalism,” the spokesman said. “In conference with managers of the cemetery, it appears to be a result of neglect of maintenance combined with environmental factors, such as the soil giving way.”** ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/87 "2017-03-06T17:47:42Z")
So much to address. First, why do I give no credence or respect to the SPLC? Because they don’t deserve any. You’d scoff if I offered any conservative criticisms of Morris Dees and his fellow frauds at the SPLC, so I’ll stick to leftist sources. From Harper’s: [Page not found](http://harpers.org/blog/2010/04/morris-dees-a-life-fighting-poverty/) From The Nation: [https://www.thenation.com/article/king-hate-business/](https://www.thenation.com/article/king-hate-business/) Morris Dees is a scam artist who has enriched himself through scare tactics. He makes a very nice living by yelling “Booga booga! The Klan is bigger and stronger than ever,” and then raking in donations from gullible liberals. The list of “hate groups” keeps getting bigger and badder, making the SPLC more necessary and more need of yoiur dough than ever before. Morris Dees is the Tammy Faye Bakker of liberalism. As for suggestions that the NYPD believes anti-semitism is on the rise, guess again: > **[NYPD says gravestones at Jewish cemetery in Brooklyn were not vandalized](https://abcnews.go.com/US/nypd-investigate-vandalism-predominantly-jewish-cemetery-brooklyn/story?id=45919318)** ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/88 "2017-03-06T18:02:12Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > As for suggestions that the NYPD believes anti-semitism is on the rise, guess again: > > [NYPD says gravestones at Jewish cemetery in Brooklyn were not vandalized - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/US/nypd-investigate-vandalism-predominantly-jewish-cemetery-brooklyn/story?id=45919318) Please explain how this link in any way contradicts mine. Feel free to use small words because I’m pretty slow. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/89 "2017-03-06T18:19:14Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > As for suggestions that the NYPD believes anti-semitism is on the rise, guess again: > > [NYPD says gravestones at Jewish cemetery in Brooklyn were not vandalized - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/US/nypd-investigate-vandalism-predominantly-jewish-cemetery-brooklyn/story?id=45919318) Your link says nothing about the NYPD’s opinion about the rise of anti-Semitism, and I am still wondering about why only gravestones in that one tiny area were effected. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/90 "2017-03-06T19:12:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Your link says nothing about the NYPD’s opinion about the rise of anti-Semitism, and I am still wondering about why only gravestones in that one tiny area were effected. Oh… so the NYPD isnt an unimpeachable source any more? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/91 "2017-03-06T19:18:32Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Oh… so the NYPD isnt an unimpeachable source any more? ?? You have yet to show that they said anything against a rise in anti-semitism. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/92 "2017-03-06T19:49:53Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Oh… so the NYPD isnt an unimpeachable source any more? They’re a fine source, they’re just not saying what you seem to think they’re saying. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/93 "2017-03-06T21:52:11Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > They’re a fine source, they’re just not saying what you seem to think they’re saying. So the NYPD is saying the gravestones were the target of anti-Semitic violence? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/94 "2017-03-06T21:56:00Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > So the NYPD is saying the gravestones were the target of anti-Semitic violence? > > Regards, > Shodan So are you claiming that someone said this, or are you putting words in people’s mouths? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/95 "2017-03-06T21:56:39Z")
You’re correct, the NYPD says that incident was not vandalism. Now, again, how does that contradict their earlier statement that anti-Semitic hate crimes in NYC have surged in the last year? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/96 "2017-03-07T01:44:44Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > I may have just grossly underestimated the amount of anti-semites we have across the country. [personal anecdote] For most of my life I socialized with Berkeleyites, academic types, ex-hippies, and science/technology professionals. I can’t recall a single instance of anti-Semitism — though conversation seldom drifted to where such sentiments would be revealed. I retired to Thailand and tended to socialize with whatever (mostly middle-aged or retired, mostly British) Westerners were available; conversation was diverse and candid. I was surprised to find that anti-Semitism seemed more the rule than the exception! I asked one why he hated Jews — his reply was “They’ve been hated for thousands of years; there must be something wrong with them.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/97 "2017-03-07T17:44:15Z")
[According to the ADL](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/adl-offices-jewish-community-centers-bomb-threats), the wave of threats is continuing, with more bomb threats to various JCCs and ADL offices. Hopefully they turn out to be hoaxes. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/98 "2017-03-11T04:50:36Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > The wave of bomb threats can literally be the product of one (pretty persistent) person phoning them in. To follow up on my post two weeks ago: > **[NYPD official: JCC threats mostly from one person | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/10/us/nypd-intel-official-jcc-threats/index.html)** > > One man is using technical skills to disguise his voice and spoof his phone number while threatening Jewish religious centers and schools across the country, the head of police intelligence for New York City told CBS. "(CNN)One man is using technical skills to disguise his voice and spoof his phone number while threatening Jewish religious centers and schools across the country, the head of police intelligence for New York City told CBS. " ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/99 "2017-03-11T04:58:14Z")
Somebody vandalized a synagogue in Seattle with the words “HOLOCAUST IS FAKE HISTORY”. Could somebody take a look at the picture in the link and here and explain to me what the lines on the S’s mean? Is it something Nazi? > **[Seattle synagogue vandalized with Holocaust denial graffiti | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/10/us/seattle-synagogue-vandalized-holocaust-denial/)** > > A Seattle synagogue is spraypainted with graffiti calling the Holocaust "fake history," making it the latest victim of anti-Semitic vandalism. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/100 "2017-03-11T04:59:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Could somebody take a look at the picture in the link and here and explain to me what the lines on the S’s mean? Is it something Nazi? Read the article. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040.md?page=6)