# Wave of anti semitic violence

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 28, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040 "2017-02-28T16:37:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/101 "2017-03-11T05:12:49Z")

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Ah, thanks, I scanned it but missed that.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/102 "2017-03-11T17:06:32Z")

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So…summarize, eh? Answer the question?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/103 "2017-03-23T15:30:44Z")

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[Another](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/israeli-man-19-arrested-in-connection-with-threats-against-jewish-community-centers-in-us-other-nations/2017/03/23/15123300-0fcb-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.5b4e4c7e6c1f) arrest has been made. An Israeli man is suspected of making most of the threats (from Israel) against Jewish community centers in the US and elsewhere. Some [articles](http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-arrested-israel-connection-bomb-threats-us-jewish/story?id=46323084) (not all) are specifying that the man is Jewish.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/104 "2017-03-23T15:48:57Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> [Another](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/israeli-man-19-arrested-in-connection-with-threats-against-jewish-community-centers-in-us-other-nations/2017/03/23/15123300-0fcb-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.5b4e4c7e6c1f) arrest has been made. An Israeli man is suspected of making most of the threats (from Israel) against Jewish community centers in the US and elsewhere. Some [articles](http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-arrested-israel-connection-bomb-threats-us-jewish/story?id=46323084) (not all) are specifying that the man is Jewish.

This one is, on the surface, damned weird. I look forward to hearing more as they puzzle out the “why”.

(My first-blush guess: [for teh lulz](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-did-it-for-the-lulz).)

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/105 "2017-03-23T15:58:00Z")

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As I suggested a while ago - the “wave” is most probably the result of just a handful of individuals remotely phoning it in. Interesting that so far (I am not sure, but don’t remember seeing one) not one genuine “white supremacist” has been implicated in the “wave”. I would have expected at least one such - there are a few of them around and they are not known for their intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/106 "2017-03-23T16:00:51Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> This one is, on the surface, damned weird. I look forward to hearing more as they puzzle out the “why”.
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> (My first-blush guess: [for teh lulz](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-did-it-for-the-lulz).)

The fact that the arrested 19-year old is not ultra-orthodox _and_ not currently serving in the IDF indicates that he has some serious psychological problems that prevented him from being drafted.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/107 "2017-03-23T22:04:43Z")

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Wonder if anyone will stop blaming Trump.

Nah, of course they won’t.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/108 "2017-03-23T22:12:59Z")

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Seriously, American liberals and Jews should be HAPPY that there aren’t really loads of anti-semitic conservatives dying to kill them.

But I think a lot of them will be ticked off instead.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/109 "2017-03-23T22:14:25Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Seriously, American liberals and Jews should be HAPPY that there aren’t really loads of anti-semitic conservatives dying to kill them.
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> But I think a lot of them will be ticked off instead.

Sure, I’m happy with every arrest. But I’m pretty sure they haven’t accounted for anywhere close to all of the recent threats and incidents.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/110 "2017-03-23T22:51:49Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> The fact that the arrested 19-year old is not ultra-orthodox _and_ not currently serving in the IDF indicates that he has some serious psychological problems that prevented him from being drafted.

I have seen articles saying that he was found to be “unfit” for military service, but not specifying why just yet.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/111 "2017-03-23T23:45:01Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> I have seen articles saying that he was found to be “unfit” for military service, but not specifying why just yet.

Since AFAIU in Israel mere physical disabilities usually do not prevent you from being drafted (they just lower your “profile” and may prevent you from being in combat roles), it must have been psychological.

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/112 "2017-03-24T13:41:15Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Sure, I’m happy with every arrest. But I’m pretty sure they haven’t accounted for anywhere close to all of the recent threats and incidents.

Authorities have said this guy was ‘the primary source’ of the bomb threats. He didn’t travel to the US and knock over headstones in the cemetery in MO. But it’s not really clear there’s been such a ‘wave’ if you subtract him out. This is a sort of phenomenon where perception and media coverage and narrative can make a big difference. Besides people’s political preconceptions, the outcomes of elections they do/don’t like making them perceive things differently, as do a lot of media reporters.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/113 "2017-03-24T16:06:32Z")

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To use an old meme… remember 2001, the Year of the Shark? When all the media were going on and on about the huge wave of shark attacks?

Sharks ARE dangerous. They DO kill people. We SHOULD be afraid of them up to a point. But were shark attacks really rampant that year? NO! There were about the same number of shark attacks in the US as there are every year. For some reason, the media took special notice of sharks in 2001. There were probably as many shark attacks in 2011, but nobody cared.

It’s PROBABLY no different now. When the FBI puts out the hate crime stats next year, I’m not at all convinced there will be notably more or less anti-Jewish violence than there was in 1993 or 2009, when the White House was safely in Democrat hands. There were roughly 90 anti-semitic hate crimes a month during the Obama years. I’m willing to bet a quarter that there won’t be notably more or fewer such incidence during Trump’s term.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/114 "2017-03-25T20:24:07Z")

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It is being [reported](http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/227206) in Israel that the suspect had a Bitcoin account with many foreign deposits, so there is speculation that he was being paid from overseas to make these threats. I don’t know whether this reporting is credible.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-of-anti-semitic-violence/781040/115 "2017-03-26T04:55:40Z")

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The police haven’t released that much information about the suspect yet. We know that he’s an American immigrant, that he’s a shut-in who lives with his father, that he was homeschooled (very rare in Israel) and that his father said something about his son’s “medical condition”. I’ll post more information when it becomes available.

> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> It is being [reported](http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/227206) in Israel that the suspect had a Bitcoin account with many foreign deposits, so there is speculation that he was being paid from overseas to make these threats. I don’t know whether this reporting is credible.

As a rule, I wouldn’t quote anything from Israel National News. They’re somewhere between Fox News and Breitbart in Israeli terms.

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