# Wave theory of matter

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-theory-of-matter/441030>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 11, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-theory-of-matter/441030 "2008-03-11T22:23:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-theory-of-matter/441030/1 "2008-03-11T22:23:43Z")

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If I’m reading this guy right, he seems to have found a new way to unite Relativity with Quantum Mechanics.

Geoff Haselhurst:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Ekp1OKi6e4o/hqdefault.jpg "Dr Wolff Philosophy Physics Video: Wave Structure of Matter") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekp1OKi6e4o)

> **[Biography Geoff Haselhurst: Philosopher of Science, Theoretical Physics,...](https://www.spaceandmotion.com/Haselhurst-Biography.htm)**
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> Biography of Geoffrey Haselhurst. Philosopher of Science, Theoretical Physics, Metaphysics, Physics (Wave Structure of Matter, WSM). Philosophy Articles on Truth, Reality and the Metaphysics of Space and Motion.

> **[User:Haselhurst](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Haselhurst)**
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> Hello all,
> Life is very busy, it is years since I have been here. But I do plan on coming back soon and re-submitting the page for the wave structure of matter. A few weeks ago I made a significant discovery about the use of biquaternion wave functions. It seems that you can now deduce all of modern physics from the following most simple foundation.
> "One substance Space exists and has planar waves flowing through it in all directions." 
> To explain this I have pasted in my comments from the biq...

IIRC, using particle/wave duality, convert EVERYTHING into waves, and that can be explained using relativity.

Is he onto something, rediscovered something trivial, or is he just a crock?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-theory-of-matter/441030/2 "2008-03-11T23:45:30Z")

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There’s no difficulty in uniting quantum mechanics with _special_ relativity. Well, rather, it takes a lot of math, but it’s known how to do it, and the resulting theory works just fine. The difficulty comes in unifying quantum mechanics with _general_ relativity, and treating everything as waves, while standard procedure, doesn’t actually help with unification at all.

In other words, what this guy has that’s legitimate isn’t anything new.

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**Author:** ![bonzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-theory-of-matter/441030/3 "2008-03-12T00:07:12Z")

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Just a fairly mundane example of a physics crank. He’s got one easily visualised idea - in this instance, that particles are actually a combination of standing waves - and lots of waffle about how this explains everything, without any attempt to grapple with any maths beyond Pythagoras’s Theorem. Enough popular science books have been ingested, without understanding, for him to regurgitate words and sentences relating to different, already understood, issues. His reliance on quotations from past physicists as claimed support isn’t a universal symptom of the species, but is reasonably common.

Twenty years ago, he and others like him would have been largely restricted to vainly mailing typewritten copies of their work to physics departments. These days they have websites.

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**Author:** ![MikeS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MikeS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeS)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-theory-of-matter/441030/4 "2008-03-12T13:25:27Z")

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[QUOTE=bonzer]  
Twenty years ago, he and others like him would have been largely restricted to vainly mailing typewritten copies of their work to physics departments. These days they have websites.  
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Oh, they still mail copies to the physics departments. My advisor has a “crackpot table” outside his office where he put all the self-published manuscripts that people have sent him; over the years, he’s accumulated quite a pile. They’re not typewritten any more, what with the advent of word processors, but some of them are still pretty impressively off-the-wall.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-theory-of-matter/441030/5 "2008-03-12T14:34:14Z")

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[QUOTE=bonzer]

Twenty years ago, he and others like him would have been largely restricted to vainly mailing typewritten copies of their work to physics departments. These days they have websites.  
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Or handwritten letters in green ink, if the former Head of Astrophysics where I was a postgrad is to be believed. He was baffled why it was always _green_ ink, and not say red or purple or blue…

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wave-theory-of-matter/441030/6 "2008-03-12T16:01:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Angua]  
Or handwritten letters in green ink, if the former Head of Astrophysics where I was a postgrad is to be believed. He was baffled why it was always _green_ ink, and not say red or purple or blue…  
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[Here is a kook rating scale that links to others online](http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/kook/) which also links to a [page explicitly about green ink in this context](http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-gre5.htm).
