# WAY more than you wanted to know about Rudy Giuliani **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095 "2023-05-15T21:07:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/1 "2023-05-15T21:07:36Z")
I was going to start this in P&E but frankly there’s zero chance it wouldn’t end up in the Pit anyway, as you will see. Also: **Trigger Warning** as the linked document gives details of sexual assault. Short version: Former employee Noelle Dunphy has filed a legal complaint against Rudy Giuliani for “unlawful abuses of power, wide-ranging sexual assault and harassment, wage theft, and other misconduct”. The full complaint is now available online, and all I can say about it is _holy shit, Rudy is an even worse person than previously suspected_. Here’s the link: [https://eddsa.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/public/650033\_2023\_Noelle\_Dunphy\_v\_Rudolph\_W\_Giuliani\_et\_al\_COMPLAINT\_10.pdf](https://eddsa.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/public/650033_2023_Noelle_Dunphy_v_Rudolph_W_Giuliani_et_al_COMPLAINT_10.pdf) Let’s have a look at the meat of the complaint here: > [@](#): > > 1. Giuliani worked aggressively to hire Ms. Dunphy, offering her what seemed like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to work as his Director of Business Development with a salary of $1 million per year plus expenses. As an added inducement, Giuliani also offered to provide pro bono legal representation to Ms. Dunphy in connection with an ongoing dispute arising from an abusive ex-partner. To Ms. Dunphy, the chance to work for an influential politician once dubbed “America’s Mayor,” combined with the prospect of free legal representation by a former United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, was a rare opportunity that was simply too good to pass up. > > 2. But Giuliani’s offer came with a significant catch: Giuliani was in the midst of an acrimonious divorce, and he told Ms. Dunphy that her pay would have to be deferred and her employment kept “secret” until the divorce proceedings finished. He claimed that his “crazy” exwife and her lawyers were watching his cashflow, and that his ex-wife would “attack” and “retaliate” against any female employee that Giuliani hired. Giuliani promised Ms. Dunphy that his divorce would be resolved “any day now,” and therefore the deferral of her pay and the need to keep her employment secret would soon end. Ms. Dunphy reluctantly agreed to defer her pay and not to publicize her employment because she viewed the job, the salary, and the free legal representation as being worth the wait. > > 3. Unfortunately, Giuliani’s seemingly generous offers were a sham motivated by his secret desire to pursue a sexual relationship with Ms. Dunphy—in total disregard for the restraints that should have protected her as his employee and client. As Giuliani later admitted in a recorded statement, he “wanted [Ms. Dunphy] from the day [he] interviewed [her].” Rudy’s seduction game was noteworthy, to say the least: > [@](#): > > 1. Giuliani also took Viagra constantly. While working with Ms. Dunphy, Giuliani > would look to Ms. Dunphy, point to his erect penis, and tell her that he could not do any work until “you take care of this.” Thus, Ms. Dunphy worked under the constant threat that Giuliani might demand sex from her at any moment. Even when the Covid-19 pandemic halted Giuliani’s ability to physically assault her, he demanded that she disrobe during their work-related videoconferences. > > 2. Giuliani also abused his position as Ms. Dunphy’s lawyer to pressure her into sex. In one instance, for example, Giuliani promised Ms. Dunphy that he would give her $300,000 if she would forgo her legal rights in connection with her pending case and “fuck me like crazy.” This statement was recorded. I mean, there’s just so much there that I can’t cover it all, from Rudy representing himself in this case to Rudy downloading all his emails onto her computer including privileged client communications to asking Dunphy deeply personal questions about her sex life. You may also be shocked to discover that Rudy has a wee bit of a substance abuse problem: > [@](#): > > 1. During this time, the work environment was regularly affected by Giuliani’s chronic alcoholism. Giuliani was rarely sober around Ms. Dunphy. Since he regularly drank all day and night, it became part of Ms. Dunphy’s responsibilities to fetch his alcohol and make sure that he was a “functioning alcoholic.” She worked hard to ensure that despite Giuliani’s excessive drinking, he did not appear drunk. If Giuliani became too drunk, it was her job to remove him from the situation. Ultimately, the most important and time-consuming aspect of Ms. Dunphy’s job became preventing Giuliani from creating media disasters. During this time, when Ms. Dunphy was not by his side, he appeared with hair dye dripping from his forehead, appeared wearing excessive amounts of self-tanner, and hosted a press conference in the parking lot of Four Seasons Total Landscaping. During this time Rudy was also purportedly helping Dunphy fight her own domestic abuse case, showing off the legal talents that have made him what he is today: > [@](#): > > 1. Giuliani told Ms. Dunphy that he wanted her to end her domestic violence litigation because he felt it was interfering with his sex life with her, and he did not want her to be “distracted” by it. Giuliani promised Ms. Dunphy that he would give her $300,000 in exchange for her waiving her legal rights as against her abusive ex-boyfriend, and if she would “fuck me like crazy.” After realizing what he had said, Giuliani attempted to backtrack and stated, “we won’t put that last part, we’ll say for other consideration not appropriate [to] mention.” **This conversation was recorded.** (bolding mine) He also displayed a remarkable level of sensitivity to a woman who was fighting to escape a violent and emotionally manipulative relationship: > [@](#): > > 1. Throughout the workday on November 19, 2019, Giuliani insisted that Ms. Dunphy drink alcohol until she became intoxicated. While Giuliani and Ms. Dunphy were working, he initiated aggressive sexual intercourse with Ms. Dunphy. Ms. Dunphy was too intoxicated to consent to intercourse and did not consent to intercourse. During this interaction, he made a comment that he thought of her as his daughter. This comment was recorded. Ms. Dunphy was extremely disturbed by this remark, which was eerily similar to the one he had made on March 4, 2019, as referenced above. > > 2. During that interaction, Giuliani said to Ms. Dunphy, “You’re my consultant. Just go down on me.” **This statement was recorded.** (bolding again mine) > [@](#): > > 1. Starting in around March 2020, the Covid-19 pandemic forced Ms. Dunphy and Giuliani to work remotely. They worked on many business-related matters, including, for example, his image, branding, and social media, and his concern that Maria Ryan was blackmailing him with respect to his conduct related to Ukraine and “paper trails” related to foreign money. > > 2. During almost every videoconference, Giuliani directed Ms. Dunphy to take her clothes off in front of the camera. And…you know what - just read the whole damn thing. But here’s one more delightful snippet for you ( **trigger warning** again for so many reasons): > [@](#): > > 1. During Ms. Dunphy’s work for Defendants, Giuliani often made outrageous comments that created and added to the hostile work environment that Ms. Dunphy was forced to endure. Ms. Dunphy found these comments revolting, but there was little she could do to stop them given the lack of any Human Resources personnel and the extraordinary degree of control that Giuliani had wielded over her as her boss and lawyer. > > 2. For example, Giuliani made the comments described below, many of which were recorded: > > a. Giuliani made derogatory comments about Jewish men and implied that their penises were inferior due to “natural selection.” > > b. Giuliani told Ms. Dunphy that “black guys hit women more than anybody else does… and so do Hispanic guys – it is in their culture.” > > c. Giuliani said, “Jews want to go through their freaking Passover all the time, man oh man. Get over the Passover. It was like 3,000 years ago. The red sea parted, big deal. It’s not the first time that happened.” > > d. Giuliani made comments about “freakin Arabs” and Jews. > > e. Giuliani demeaned and sexualized Hillary Clinton and mocked her body. > > f. Giuliani demeaned and sexualized Margaret Thatcher and wondered about the effect she would have on his penis. > > g. Giuliani said, “If my life depended on it, if I had to make love to Nancy Pelosi, I couldn’t do it. I’d have to die.” > > h. Giuliani referred to employee Vanessa Ryan, who is Maria Ryan’s daughter, as “fat” and said that he felt bad for her because she was fat. He further said he was “trying not to feed” her. > > i. Giuliani disparaged a female lawyer because of her breast size. > > j. Giuliani made a series of derogatory remarks about the LGBTQ community, including: > i. Giuliani claimed that Mayor Michael Bloomberg “became gay” because his wife left him. > ii. Giuliani named a prominent Republican as gay. > iii. Giuliani used the word “fag” to refer to actor Matt Damon. > iv. Giuliani mocked Senator Elizabeth Warren as “in search of a gender,” stating: “Pocahontas was a really hot babe, and Warren does not look like a babe. She looks like a person in search of a gender.” Giuliani later said he was “very hot” for Warren. > v. Giuliani named a prominent lawyer who he believed would require $10 million for gay sex. Giuliani then insisted that he was the only one of his male friends who would turn down any amount of money > to have sex with a man. > > k. Giuliani said to Ms. Dunphy, at various times, in statements that were recorded: > i. “I’m gonna make it a little painful.” > ii. “Stick it up your ass.” > iii. “You’re a fucking slut.” > iv. You’re my bitch. > v. “I’m gonna get my cock in there.” > vi. “Be a slut! Be Rudy’s slut!” > vii. Giuliani called Ms. Dunphy a “whore.” > viii. Giuliani said, “I want to own you officially. Legally. With a document.” > ix. “I can’t control myself. I lose control. I think of you all the time. I’m unable to control it. I’m addicted.” > x. “I can’t think about you without getting hard. Even when I think about how smart you are, I get hard.” > xi. Giuliani stated that he would “get in trouble with underage girls” if they were 16 but looked 20. > xii. “I think of you as my daughter. Is that weird?”—which Giuliani said while engaging in sexual contact with Ms. Dunphy. > xiii. Giuliani told Ms. Dunphy that she was “his” and he had purportedly “been too easy on [her].” So there you go. I need to go scrub my eyeballs now. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/2 "2023-05-15T21:09:34Z")
A P&E mod thanks you for your thoughtful choice of appropriate forum for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/3 "2023-05-15T21:16:42Z")
Glad to be of service. Weirdly, what sticks in my head is the Margaret Thatcher thing. He hired Dunphy in 2019. Thatcher died in 2013. Why was he still wondering about having sex with her? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/4 "2023-05-15T21:19:39Z")
Uh … Holy fucking shit. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/5 "2023-05-15T21:19:41Z")
The OP says this is a legal complaint filed by a former employee. So surely what we are seeing is what she alleged he did. Have we seen any of the evidence yet, that any of these charges are true? I am not defending Giuliani at all. I suspect he is (and was) at least capable mentally and emotionally of having done most or all of this stuff. But I wish to preserve some measure of outrage hygiene, and save my splutters for things that are more solid than allegations. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/6 "2023-05-15T21:20:44Z")
Well, the phrase “This was recorded” (or variations thereof) appears a lot in the document. One might assume that there are tapes to back up at least those claims. ETA: Or video files. “Tapes” - Jesus, how old am I? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/7 "2023-05-15T21:23:41Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > But I wish to preserve some measure of outrage hygiene, and save my splutters for things that are more solid than allegations. That’s a fair point. I’m so conditioned to known things about Giuliani that demonstrate he’s a pig (with apologies to pigs) that I really have no difficulty in believing in prima facie assertions regarding these types of allegations. But you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/8 "2023-05-15T21:33:04Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Well, the phrase “This was recorded” (or variations thereof) appears a lot in the document. One might assume that there are tapes to back up at least those claims. > > ETA: Or video files. “Tapes” - Jesus, how old am I? It’s still only a claim until we see the video files, and their bona fides are established. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/9 "2023-05-15T21:38:06Z")
I look forward to (metaphorically) seeing the evidence. Literally though, I’ll pass, there’s not enough brain/eye bleach in the world. The puking would never stop. The accusations strike me as entirely consistent with the Post-Trump Ghouliani, as does the clumsiness of the attacks - he seems to think that like Trump, he won’t be held accountable for anything, even if events tend to prove that Trump’s now-chipped amor of invincibility has only ever worked for him (at least in the short-to-medium term). I do suspect though that the plaintiff is going to be SOL for recovery, because in light of RG’s many, Many legal woes, she’ll be stuck in a very long line of people with quite large claims to make. And at this rate, even RWNJs aren’t going to give RG any money, nor is he likely employable even in RWNJ think tanks by now, as his multiplicity of failures and legal woes aren’t particularly attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/10 "2023-05-15T21:50:51Z")
I didn’t read the PDF, but the things he asked her to do (disrobe on camera, ‘fuck him like crazy’ etc), did she do them or did he just ask? I’m not, in any way, suggesting it was okay for him to say those things, I’m just curious as to how she responded to those requests. Also, this “Giuliani promised Ms. Dunphy that he would give her $300,000 in exchange for her waiving her legal rights as against her abusive ex-boyfriend” Did he really ask her to waive her legal rights against her abusive ex-boyfriend? Wouldn’t it have made a ton more sense for him to say ‘due to [reasons], I can’t represent you in this case anymore, you’ll have to find a new lawyer’? When I read ‘waive your rights’ it sounds like he’s offering her 300k as a settlement on the boyfriend’s behalf. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/11 "2023-05-15T22:03:25Z")
Seventy pages are a lot! But Ok, take some points that stand out: > 1. Once Giuliani’s email account was loaded onto Ms. Dunphy’s computer, at least 23,000 emails associated with the account, including many from before her employment with Giuliani, were stored on her computer. > 2. Since Giuliani gave Ms. Dunphy access to his email account, she had access to information that was, upon information and belief, privileged, confidential, and highly sensitive. > 3. For example, Ms. Dunphy was given access to emails from, to, or concerning President Trump, the Trump family (including emails from Donald Trump, Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump), Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, former FBI director Louis Freeh, Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow, Secretaries of State, former aides to President Trump such as Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus, and Kellyanne Conway, former Attorneys General Michael Mukasey and Jeff Sessions, media figures such as Rupert Murdoch, Sean Hannity, and Tucker Carlson, and other notable figures including Newt Gingrich, presidential candidates for Ukraine, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, the Ailes family, the LeFrak family, Bernard Kerik, Igor Fruman, Lev Parnas, and attorneys Marc Mukasey, Robert Costello, Victoria Toensing, Fred Fielding, and Joe DeGenova. Are those 23,000 emails now pubic record? Because I can not imagine that at least some of them do not disclose something illegal. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey is particularly hot right now, the second round of the presidential election in Turkey is in two weeks. The other names mentioned in that list are interesting too, at least the ones I know. I will put a link to the [Schadenfreude](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers/925537) thread, seems fitting. There could be a lot of Schadenfreude coming if this develops in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/12 "2023-05-15T22:06:19Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I didn’t read the PDF, but the things he asked her to do (disrobe on camera, ‘fuck him like crazy’ etc), did she do them or did he just ask? From the pdf: > 1. Ms. Dunphy was frightened. She said she wanted to get dressed, unpack, and settle in. She asked for privacy. She said she would meet him in the living room when she was ready. > But Giuliani would not leave. He sat on the bed and pulled down his pants. The following screenshot from the film Borat: Subsequent Moviefilm depicts Giuliani acting in a similar manner to how he acted with Ms. Dunphy: > 2. Giuliani then pulled her head onto his penis, without asking for or obtaining any form of consent. He held her by her hair. It became clear to Ms. Dunphy that there was no way out of giving him oral sex. She did so, against her will. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/13 "2023-05-15T22:27:27Z")
Rudy seems like a real swell guy. But, when can we get back to Hunter’s laptop as well as Papa Biden killing off an informant? And there is the recent Durham bombshell. And how can we forget Benghazi? 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/14 "2023-05-15T22:46:48Z")
Booze is the ultimate wood killer. Just sayin.’ None of this would surprise me at all. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/15 "2023-05-15T23:01:14Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > And there is the recent Durham bombshell. And how can we forget Benghazi? How soon you forget the Bowling Green Massacre. And Portland being burned to the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/16 "2023-05-15T23:15:15Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Are those 23,000 emails now pubic record? phrasing… ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/17 "2023-05-15T23:20:05Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > When I read ‘waive your rights’ it sounds like he’s offering her 300k as a settlement on the boyfriend’s behalf. I think that’s pretty much exactly what he was offering her. They are working on the case against her ex, he’s getting tired of it and isn’t getting paid for it, so he offers her 300K to quit the case so they can spend all their time fucking instead of working on it (or at least he’s claiming to. In all likelihood he probably intended to stiff her (pun not intended)). ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/18 "2023-05-15T23:26:15Z")
I hate to seem to be blaming the victim here (you go, girl!) but no one should agree to work for a sleazebag like Rudy without a pretty clear idea that they’re gonna end up screwed ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/19 "2023-05-16T00:13:01Z")
What a horrible day to have eyes! ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095/20 "2023-05-16T00:27:04Z")
Let’s not forget his previous scandalous tape > **[Borat 2 Rudy Giuliani Scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiH97O542jA?t=139)** > > Borat is back! ~Max [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095.md?page=2)